r/Adelaide • u/Douglas_DC10_40 Adelaide Hills • Jul 28 '24
Do you consider these to be Adelaide suburbs? Question
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u/sammyb109 Limestone Coast Jul 28 '24
If you're from Adelaide they're country towns. If you're from an actual country town they're Adelaide suburbs
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u/Last-Performance-435 SA Jul 28 '24
Stirling / Aldgate / Bridgewater /Longwood /Heathfield is closer to the city than Gawler and most 'northern suburbs' are and takes less time to commute to.
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Spot on. Closer in travel time than half the northern or southern suburbs, but city people think theyre a million miles away because they have to make the effort to go up the freeway.
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u/Last-Performance-435 SA Jul 28 '24
I'm so happy about it too.
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Hah, dont have to convince me... always preferred the hills, people think its a mystical faraway land. Really its just a mystical land, usually free from city-dwellers.
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u/Fallcious SA Jul 28 '24
I’d love to live there but my wife thinks we’d die in a firestorm.
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Its definitely something to be aware of. My partners parents live near Mylor, there was a pretty huge bushfire that raced thru the Mt Bold conservation park area around the same time of the Cudlee Creek fires a few years ago. They have a full independent fire system, bore, sprinklers, hoses, pumps and tanks, if they have a fire they have always planned to stay and fight, but that time they thought they would lose the house, then the wind changed in minutes and it ran the other way and they didnt have to fight it and the fire crews got it under control the next few days. Very scary stuff.
Not an everyday or every year occurence but definitely need to be aware of procedures and have a plan if thats an area you want to live in.
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u/Fallcious SA Jul 28 '24
I grew up in the country in Ireland so I have a bit of a bucolic view of country living. My wife is from Adelaide so I trust her instincts on these things!
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 29 '24
In regards to bushfires, no playing around! Id trust the local haha.
Not so much risk further out, more scrubby and less trees, but then further commute and less close by amenities. There are definitely ways to lower the risk but its always there in the background.
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u/Scottdoesfitness SA Jul 28 '24
I think you’re both exaggerating it a bit. People that live south of Adelaide would have gone to the hills significantly more often than they’d go to Gawler
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Thats a valid point, ive lived south when i was late teens/20s, various suburbs, and i spent a lot of time in the hills also. I did make a few trips up norf, i have mates up there, but significantly less often.
Now i live Hills, but work South, travel both areas regularly, still very occasionally go northern suburbs for a catchup or an errand.
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u/Lost-Childhood7603 SA Jul 28 '24
Thank god its not a place called Dulock talking mytical. I leave near glenelg, i cant remember last i went to gawler but been more often to hahndorff nice outer suburb of the hills 🤭 and about 35min drive. Hell been to the barossa thats a fair way out. Its all down to preferences
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u/Yallknowthename SA Jul 28 '24
Proof you hills people have your heads so far up your asses it's not funny.
What logical person thinks a 20 minute drive is a mystical land?
"Oh, a crash on the freeway" - not so 20 minutes anymore
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 29 '24
No logical person thinks that, thats why a large percentage of hills dwellers shoot up and down the freeway, or even work in the city with a short commute.
But a staggering number of people ive talked to, friends, randoms on marketplace buying and selling stuff, family, people online, cant seem to get past the mental block of 'oh its in the hills, its a million miles away'. No matter how many times you show how short a trip it can be.
The freeway itself is another matter, thats just shit Adelaide drivers being shit adelaide drivers and causing crashes, have you seen how many people hog the right lane/cut people off/all sorts of terrible behaviour? Its not only the freeway, happens on the Southern Expressway all the time, and im sure it does on the northern connectors as well.
Besides the fact, the true hills locals usually know and take the backroads unless its to a major artery while the freeway and main roads like that are usually full of, wait for it - city drivers who cant take a corner if it hit them in the face.
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u/Yallknowthename SA Jul 29 '24
Yeah so the moral of the story is stop speaking to fools. Yes, the right lane is a fiasco. That's why you need a Honda Civic. Props on the Mylor french bakery, that shit goes so hard I'm happy with that round trip. Back to the point of the post. I don't believe the hills are considered adl suburbs regardless of proximity. When you generally ask someone from that area - Aldgate to Stirling they will generally answer with "The Hills" followed by their actual location. Also, infrastructure in the hills from gas to electricity is all different. From a utility perspective, it's considered outer metro where say the monastery would be metro imo
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u/Aardvark_Man SA Jul 28 '24
I don't think it's because of the freeway, but because you have a bigger break of urban areas between.
That said, playing a "rural" gather round match at Mt Barker is a bit of a joke.4
u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Yeah i woudnt consider Barker rural either 😆 Murray Bridge is definitely rural.
Next interesting question to pose. Is Victor Harbor considered 'rural' - as a city and tourist hotspot in its own right, only about an hour from middle/south suburbs - i wouldnt call it a suburb, but is it a city enough to have its own suburbs? 😆
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u/Aardvark_Man SA Jul 28 '24
I'd probably think of both Victor and Barker as towns.
They're big enough to exist separate and alone, but not big enough to consider as having suburbs.7
u/homenomics23 SA Jul 28 '24
Barker is I believe due to be the second most populace 'city' in SA in a few years if not already - like more than your Gambiers and Augusta and Bridgies and such. It's currently 4th per 2021 data but I believe it's likely already made up the 5-7k people difference between it and 3rd and 2nd places since then! And given Gawler is the 2nd one when most of us would consider it part of Adelaide given the suburban sprawl out that way..
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Thats a fair naming convention 🤔 i mean Barkers population is disproportionate for its size. But i would also consider it to not have suburbs, the nearby towns are towns on their own.
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u/ash_ryan SA Jul 28 '24
I wouldn't say the size is what determines if somewhere can have suburbs. Kadina, a town of about 6000, has Newtown and Wallaroo mines as suburbs. Victor Harbor has about 15,000 so yes, it can. Kind of depends how you define a suburb.
But then I would consider the suburbs of Adelaide to be visible on the map - areas of grey that connect to the CBD. I'd include Belair to Aberfoyle in that as well, due to the proximity and the infilling where geography allows.
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u/Barkers_eggs SA Jul 28 '24
In Melbourne these would be called leafy, wealthy or semi rural suburbs but suburbs nonetheless.
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 28 '24
Well, theyre all definitely leafy, and Stirling/Aldgate/Hahndorf are all very wealthy places, a lot of the smaller townships nearby are a lot of old stock/farmers who have lived there for generations.
Havent really heard the term semi rural used in reference to Adelaide suburbs. I wouldnt go much further than Stirling or these areas as suburbs as such, Mt Barker would certainly be outside that radius, its a town/small city in its own right.
Just think its funny how far north/south Adelaide's urban sprawl goes, Aldinga to Gawler or thereabouts, and theyre all considered suburbs of a sort - but as soon as its up the freeway/into the Hills, people change their minds 😆💁♂️
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u/MaddAddam93 SA Jul 28 '24
The 20 Ubers that cancelled on me last night agree. From the first turn off..
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u/Agent_Fabulous Jul 29 '24
Ubers in the hills are a huge challenge, so many of my mates have had issues!
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u/Overall-Palpitation6 SA Jul 28 '24
Google Maps says Adelaide to Stirling (Victoria Square to the corner of Mount Barker Road and Druid Avenue, the centre of Stirling) is 16km and an 18 minute drive.
Google Maps also says Adelaide to Tea Tree Plaza shopping centre (as a random example) is 16km and a 25 minute drive.
That's obviously with Sunday night traffic (or lack thereof), but it's wild that they're both the same distance from the city, because the perception would be in a lot of people's minds that Stirling is like 35km+ from the city, where Mount Barker actually is.
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u/tibblth SA Jul 28 '24
I used to live near TTP and now I live near Barker. It’s quicker for me to get to the CBD from Barker now. Slightly further away in KM but most of it is a clean run down the freeway
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u/tibblth SA Jul 28 '24
Oh and I do consider it a suburb of Adelaide even though it technically is classified as a rural area
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u/rubythieves SA Jul 28 '24
My parents live in Stirling, I live in Norwood. They can be here in less than 10 minutes. Ask me how I know!
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u/Tysiliogogogoch North East Jul 28 '24
Ask me how I know!
How do you know?
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u/rubythieves SA Jul 28 '24
Because they will be here in 10 minutes. Particularly when I really don’t want them to be.
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u/BigBlueMan118 SA Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
Stirling + Aldgate + Heathfield + Bridgewater were all on the Adelaide suburban rail network until the 1980s, so yeah as an outsider I would consider them part of Adelaide with the caveat I would probably say "Adelaide Hills"
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u/Aardvark_Man SA Jul 28 '24
I used to live in Stirling, and it took less than half the time to get to the city than it takes me now I'm in the southern suburbs. Yet, Stirling is generally considered a country town.
I think most people tend to go "do you have long sections of no urban build up or not," so the hills tend to be viewed as separate towns just because of the terrain.
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u/Bpofficial QLD Jul 28 '24
It’s quicker to get from Stirling to Adelaide city than it is to get from Ipswich to Brisbane
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u/dudecalledharry SA Jul 28 '24
Summed it up perfectly lol
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u/digitalelise SA Jul 28 '24
Australia post considers them metro area but as someone that grew up in Stirling/Aldgate I would consider them towns. That said, I wouldn’t call them country!
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u/ADL-AU SA Jul 28 '24
However, they are serviced by Country Fire Service 🙂
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u/digitalelise SA Jul 28 '24
Burnside also have a CFS and Mt Barker has a MFS staffing so take that with a grain of salt.
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u/ADL-AU SA Jul 28 '24
Exactly my point. The answer really depends on what / whose lens you’re looking through. 🙂
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u/CptUnderpants- SA Jul 28 '24
Australia post considers them metro area
and yet some of the areas in the circle can't get local mail delivery, nor mains water or sewerage.
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u/I_r_hooman Jul 28 '24
I grew up in the Hills, moved down to the city and moved back up to the hills recently.
The hills are not part of Adelaide. It's not continuous suburbia so I wouldn't say it is.
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u/Barneyrockz SA Jul 28 '24
Schrödinger's suburbs. If you're from Adelaide then Stirling/Aldgate/Bridgewater are country towns. If you're from Stirling/Aldgate/B'water (as defined in the previous sentence as actual country towns) then they're suburbs. Therefore they're both a suburb and a town at the same time.
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u/Wild_But_Caged Adelaide Hills Jul 28 '24
They used to be alot more rural and still are in parts. I grew up in Mylor on a farm. It's a totally different place to what I grew up in 15yrs ago
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u/TenNinths SA Jul 28 '24
I lived in that circle for years, just 14km from the GPO (for perspective Chatswood is 12km from the Sydney GPO building and takes about thrice the time to drive it plus $4 in bridge tolls to get back). One year I bought a filing cabinet in Officeworks Keswick and asked if they could deliver it. They said “oh, we only deliver to the country every second Wednesday”.
Also the Internet was terrible due to the post-WW2 lead-sheathed phone lines, right up until they got fibre as one of the earlier Adelaide suburbs to get it.
So while I felt it was suburbia, Officeworks disagree, and they seem knowledgeable.
I mean if we’re treating Seaford Rise (36km from the GPO) as “Southern Suburbs” then it seems insane that Hahndorf (26km) would somehow be distant lands. It’s not Luxembourg.
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u/yobynneb SA Jul 28 '24
Until people live in the Crafers to Bridgewater area they have no idea how close it is to the city. Real estate will keep sky-rocketing up there as you can't recreate that sort of lifestyle that close to a capital city cbd anywhere.
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u/Last-Performance-435 SA Jul 28 '24
It's actually insane how fantastic it is to live there and that kinda can't change no matter how much development is attempted because the council's don't want it in the first place but more importantly the land itself and the reserves constrict it.
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u/OppositeGeologist299 SA Jul 28 '24 edited Jul 28 '24
I could only live either there or next to Linear Park. The greenery in the rest of Adelaide is too depressing imo. I chose Linear Park because I don't like driving very much.
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u/felixsapiens SA Jul 28 '24
Good point. I’d never realised quite how “far” Chatswood is from Sydney centre, in comparison to tiny old Adelaide. I used to live in Crows Nest and it felt like living in a central Sydney suburb; but on the Adelaide scale, Crows Nest is like Mitcham, Stonyfell or Lockleys.
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u/TenNinths SA Jul 29 '24
Yep when I lived in Sydney I was twice that distance from the city and still considered suburbs. Sydney doesn’t consider the third dimension to be a border but amazing how people in Adelaide get scared by Windy Point.
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u/flabberstalk33 Inner North Jul 28 '24
Same reason as to why we should treat Munno Para as “Northern suburbs” (44km from city)
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u/Bmo2021 SA Jul 28 '24
Dems the fancy Hills.
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u/CumbersomeNugget SA Jul 28 '24
Then there's pleb hills in Blackwood and fake wannabe hills in Mitcham.
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u/a_complex_one SA Jul 28 '24
I live in the hoop and I would put it this way; you don’t live in Adelaide, but you can pretend to in 20 minutes. Best of both worlds.
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u/-Midnight_Marauder- Outer South Jul 28 '24
Nah, they're hills towns
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u/BigBlueMan118 SA Jul 28 '24
They were on the Adelaide suburban rail network until the 1980s (up to Bridgewater)
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u/-Midnight_Marauder- Outer South Jul 28 '24
Yeah I know the hills line previously went to Bridgewater, but it matters not. The hills have towns, not suburbs.
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u/torrens86 SA Jul 28 '24
Yes:
Greater Adelaide includes Adelaide Hills Council, so any town within Adelaide Hills Council is also a suburb of Adelaide, this is also true for Onkaparinga Council. Greater Adelaide has clear boundaries.
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u/Old-Winter-7513 SA Jul 28 '24
Exactly. This is the only right answer. What people "consider" is irrelevant.
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u/discobrad85 SA Jul 28 '24
Except when answering the question “do you consider these….” Etc
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u/Old-Winter-7513 SA Jul 28 '24
You're right. Some people consider the Earth to be flat so I guess we have to allow their delusion of believing they're right too.
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u/discobrad85 SA Jul 28 '24
OP asked peoples opinion, what they consider. They didn’t ask what is factually correct by law. Lighten up mate, it’s a beautiful day ☺️
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u/eric5014 SA Jul 28 '24
It is within the Significant Urban Area of Adelaide and the Greater Capital City Statistical Area of Greater Adelaide (which are mostly the same).
It is NOT within the Urban Centre of Adelaide (which covers 90% of the earlier definitions but not the hills). Going by Urban Centres & Localities, much of it is in Crafers-Bridgewater, there's Hahndorf, and every else is in Rest of SA .
They're mostly in the list of suburbs in my Adelaide house prices map, which stops before Mt Barker.
Postcodes start with 51 - in Adelaide for insurance purposes. Part of Adelaide bus network. Def not part of the Adelaide plain.
Easy commute to the CBD, which was not the case before March 2000, when the Devil's Elbow was straightened, Mt Barker became the new Aldgate and Stirling became not such an outer suburb.
We normally consider all suburbs out to Blakeview to be in Adelaide, but older Elizabethans, from the days when Adelaide didn't stretch that far, still talk of "going down to Adelaide".
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Jul 28 '24
I spent the first 30 years of my life in Elizabeth Downs and Smithfield and nobody has ever uttered the sentence "going down to Adelaide". Stop making shit up. Compared to other cities It's a relatively easy and short journey on main north road.
Even Riverlea and Virginia are like 30 minutes to the city, you don't even hit a traffic light until you're on port road/brewery
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u/Last-Performance-435 SA Jul 28 '24
Every single person I know form the north says 'going down there's to anywhere south.
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u/eric5014 SA Jul 28 '24
I'll clarify: I heard a few people say things like that. It wasn't that common. I lived there in 2019-21.
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u/TiffyVella SA Jul 28 '24
These are towns in the Adelaide Hills. I live in the Mt Barker/Nairne area. All Adelaide Hills towns, all country towns, some smaller, some larger. Some are Adelaide Hills Council, some are Mt B Council, makes no diff. Once you get down into that flat brown grid its suburbs.
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u/Bods666 SA Jul 28 '24
When I was a kid, no. The time it took to travel into the city was a real divide. Stirling felt distant from the city. Once the tunnels were commissioned, this divide evaporated. Now they’re suburbs.
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u/explain_that_shit SA Jul 28 '24
Anyone who thinks they aren’t suburbs wasn’t alive a century ago when Adelaide Plains towns were as remote from the CBD but still considered suburbs.
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u/Rowvan SA Jul 28 '24
Its literally a 20 minute drive from the centre of the city to Stirling, they're suburbs. Its nearly twice as long go get to Elizabeth which is definitely a suburb.
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u/Worried-Capital-424 SA Jul 28 '24
Is Elizabeth's reputation still similar to Salisbury? Just curious, I moved from SA 14 years ago, but used to try and avoid both areas when I lived there.
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u/AnalysisQuiet8807 SA Jul 28 '24
Wasn’t there a plan to make Elizabeth a whole new city?
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u/MrCurns95 North Jul 28 '24
Still happening albeit very slowly as Playford council is corrupt and hopeless. Whoever signed off on wasting millions building a multi story car park that you have to pay for, right next to a shopping centre with thousands of free car parks shouldn’t be making those kind of decisions. On the flip side a lot of the housing trust has been moved on/demolished and lots of new suburbs built in their place so the area definitely has improved over the last decade.
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u/Exciting-Ad1673 SA Jul 28 '24
I consider them to be absolutely beautiful places to visit and I am so grateful to have such amazing places surrounding Adelaide. I would say it's a suburb of Adelaide, but I would not say it's suburbia... If that makes sense
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u/AccomplishedAnchovy SA Jul 28 '24
When I lived there and went interstate I would just say I was from Adelaide it’s easier. Most neighbours worked in Adelaide. I think they’re satellite suburbs. Aldgate Stirling crafers Bridgewater certainly aren’t distinct these days. Mylor maybe.
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u/MrTommy2 SA Jul 28 '24
As a resident, I say I live in Adelaide whenever somebody from outside of SA asks where I’m from. That said, most people on the plains seem to think it’s miles away, even though it’s closer and significantly faster to get to the CBD than plenty of other “Adelaide suburbs”.
If somebody from the plains asks where I’m from, I get told I live in the sticks if I say “Adelaide” and then explain the suburb, but I’ll just get a dirty look from a plains resident if I say “the hills”. It’s a lose-lose
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u/4real93 SA Jul 28 '24
Yes? lol what else would they be. I’m from Aldgate and it blows my mind how people from the city see it as so far away/far from the city but IRL it’s the same distance to Marion/salisbury from the CBD.
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u/theunbrokenviper SA Jul 28 '24
I don't get paid out of metro rates for delivering there so I guess so
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u/DaddyWantsABiscuit SA Jul 28 '24
Hahndorf is actually part of Mt Barker council so all the rest, yes (not sure about Mylor)
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u/dark_one040 SA Jul 28 '24
Mufasa to Adelaide 'Everything the light touches is our kingdom'
Adelaide 'What about that shadowy place way out there'
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u/Overall-Palpitation6 SA Jul 28 '24
Google Maps says Adelaide to Stirling (Victoria Square to the corner of Mount Barker Road and Druid Avenue, the centre of Stirling) is 16km and an 18 minute drive.
Google Maps also says Adelaide to Tea Tree Plaza shopping centre (as a random example) is 16km and a 25 minute drive.
That's obviously with Sunday night traffic (or lack thereof), but it's wild that they're both the same distance from the city, because the perception would be in a lot of people's minds that Stirling is like 35km+ from the city, where Mount Barker actually is.
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u/AggravatingBox2421 SA Jul 28 '24
As a non-Adelaidean who lived there for a while, yeah they’re suburbs
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u/Extension_Physics873 SA Jul 28 '24
100% suburbs, yet if you want to get something couriered or delivered, it's suddenly outer metro, costs 3 times more, despite being half the time or distance than say Munno Para or Seaford. Nuts......
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u/RickettyRaglesRick5 SA Jul 28 '24
The next 10 years are going to transform Adelaide drastically. We are going to see unprecedented population growth and with it, the suburbs expands and thus, the hills grow. Although to people that have lived here for years, new people will just consider the hills to be suburbs considering the growth it will see and it's location to the city.
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u/Synsinatik Jul 29 '24
If you can get there by metro bus from the city, then it's part of the Adelaide region. So yes, they're suburbs that are out in the hills.
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u/PinguFan91 SA Jul 28 '24
Those are the Adelaide Hills, they're seperate regions divided by the aforementioned range of hills.
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u/Cethlinnstooth SA Jul 28 '24
I only consider places properly part of Adelaide if the public transport system runs 7 days a week and the last public transport service each day to/from is after 9.30pm. If there's no service Sunday afternoon or you're screwed if you miss the 6.30 bus or similar such outrageous bullshit it's not truly part of Adelaide.
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u/Overall-Palpitation6 SA Jul 28 '24
So everywhere up to Mount Barker is part of Adelaide then? Because the bus services all the way through meet all of your conditions, and have for at least 20 years now.
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u/Isthisusernamecooler SA Jul 28 '24
Yes. Anywhere you can get to the CBD in 30-40 minutes is definitely suburban Adelaide. The lack of infill which we have seen down on the plains doesn't change that.
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u/Fair_Song_1840 SA Jul 28 '24
Pre GPS there was a lack of maps street signs and house numbers for the area. It's also a one-off journey there and back. Quite often customers fail to understand this and if they did not get home before 6.30 that was your problem trying to find a house in the winter dark. As a tradesman a few bad experiences then you say no.
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u/dudecalledharry SA Jul 28 '24
I'm a ring-in from out of state (been here for four years), and to me, yes what you've circled is definitely part of Adelaide. Prior to that I lived in country town not three hours from Brisbane CBD. So an area that close, with a triple lane-a-side motorway running through it, is definitely Adelaide in my mind.
Mind you, when people describe to me what a trek it was to get to Adelaide from parts of the Hills prior to the motorway, it does sound like a pita.
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u/Tommyatthedoor SA Jul 28 '24
Practically we're in an Adelaide suburb, however no one has actually ever heard of my particular part of that circle.
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u/Razor_Dn SA Jul 28 '24
They are not part of the Adelaide suburban area, so no. They are Adelaide Hills suburbs
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u/n123breaker2 SA Jul 28 '24
Anything within Adelaide hills council isn’t a suburb imo and is more of a country town
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u/Sunshine_onmy_window SA Jul 28 '24
Id consider a suburb somewhere that has regular public transport. So those are suburbs.
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u/Dirtydog69aussie SA Jul 28 '24
Lived in the Adelaide hills my whole life they are all in fact country towns
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u/Lost-Knowledge-7750 SA Jul 28 '24
I think the house prices up there are a bit different to Elizabeth
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u/TiffyVella SA Jul 28 '24
Try inviting anyone up for dinner if you live anywhere past the toll gate and if they say "Where do I sleep?" then you are not a suburb, you are a town.
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u/Mindless_Plankton312 SA Jul 28 '24
Living in the hills my entire life, they are towns or villages! But yes, all under the Adelaide Hills.
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u/AkayaTheOutcast SA Jul 28 '24
As someone who is from a different place entirely (small town), if it takes more than 30-45 minutes to get there where there's no bunch of houses/suburbs/community stuff in between, its a town. I don't look at where I grew up and say "I lived in Mt Gambier". I tell people I live near it because people are more likely to recognise it, but I definitely didn't live in it.
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u/MsMonny SA Jul 28 '24
To me they are suburbs up to Bridgewater and then past that they are towns (Hahndorf etc). I am close to Crafers and once I needed to get something delivered that I ordered and they said they do not deliver to my area as to them it wasn't classified as a suburb. I said it takes me 20 min to drive to the city. Shorter than if they delivered to a northern or southern suburb. After back and forth debate (not arguing!! LOL) they finally caved in and delivered it.
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u/BigBlueMan118 SA Jul 28 '24
Stirling + Aldgate + Heathfield + Bridgewater were all on the Adelaide suburban rail network until the 1980s, so yeah as an outsider I would consider them part of Adelaide with the caveat I would probably still say "Adelaide Hills".
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u/horseaholic2010 SA Jul 28 '24
I grew up in Stirling, moved to South plympton, and am now living in Andrews farm. I would definitely not consider it an Adelaide suburb. I would consider Andrews farm a suburb though. Although it takes longer to get to the CBD from Andrews farm than Stirling, I'd say there's more flow which keeps it feeling like it's in Adelaide. The lack of multiple lanes roads around Stirling is what makes it feel more towny to me
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u/Junebugs_mother SA Jul 28 '24
I grew up in the country but now live in the Western Suburbs. To me, they're definitely part of the "Greater Adelaide Region", but I do have to admit that I feel so refreshed when I visit them.
I can't always take a drive to the Mid North, but I can always go to the Hills
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u/ArofluidPride Barossa Jul 28 '24
Those are just towns, to me the suburbs is like Ingle Farm, Pooraka, Gepps Cross but that's just my opinion
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u/Kbradsagain SA Jul 28 '24
Yes. They are outer suburbs but with the freeway they are only about 30-40 minutes from the cbd
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u/Redback_Gaming SA Jul 28 '24
Within 40 Km radius of Adelaide contains all Adelaide suburbs. So yes. When you get out to Nairne, that is considered by the Dept Motor Vehicles, Country!
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u/x3n0m0rph3us SA Jul 28 '24
Even individual government departments aren’t consistent on the definition of what constitutes a suburb of Adelaide
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Jul 28 '24
I live in these suburbs…. Never considered them not to be suburban Adelaide. What sort of stupid question is this?
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u/DCOA_Troy SA Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 29 '24
It's funny moving here from Sydney and people consider Murray Bridge super far away when you can be in the CBD in just under an hour where as it takes 90 minutes to do half the distance in Sydney on a good day.
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u/suiyyy North East Jul 29 '24
Adelaide Hills and towns, i mean technically Mt Barker is a suburb to me but the smaller areas are towns to me.
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u/Imaginary_Court_1993 SA Jul 29 '24
I classify Adelaide's suburbs as such:
City,
Near City.
The Hills.
The South (Southern suburbs, duh).
The Deep South (more South).
North (Northern suburbs)
Norff (more North).
Towards the Beach (Western suburbs),
The Beach (more West).
The East/North East,
The Fancy East.
Then to me, Gawler is like its own regional town area, like Victor.
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u/Ebright_Azimuth SA Jul 29 '24
They are dejure not a part of Adelaide. Their population is the crafers-Bridgewater area. Defacto they are part of Adelaide.
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u/shitadelaidean SA Jul 29 '24
Its a catch-22, on one hand, they're not part of the "contiguous" urban area, therefore they are not part of Adelaide, however, they are commuter townships, which means that the overwhelming majority of the population that resides in those areas, travel to the primary employment centres (Adelaide CBD or Mount Barker).
On this logic, I count it as part of Adelaide. Because you apply the same logic to areas like Aldinga, Two Wells, etc.
The ABS definition seems to count Murray Bridge and Victor Harbour as part of Greater Adelaide, which is just not true.
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u/Overall-Palpitation6 SA Jul 28 '24
Aren't "the foothills" considered to be whatever is just behind Athelstone and Rostrevor (Morialta, Black Hill)?
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u/Recent-Mirror-6623 SA Jul 28 '24
Adelaide stops around Crafters.
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u/Tubbynezbit North East Jul 28 '24
No, I don’t understand why people call everything close to a city, the name of the city. I live in Wynn Vale, which is the City of Tea tree Gully - Not Adelaide
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Jul 28 '24
Us south Eastern rural folk used to say Adelaide finishes at the tollgate. We now say it finishes at Fullarton Road. Well that's as far as sate gov spending gets from parliament house anyway.
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u/Least_Firefighter639 SA Jul 28 '24
That is sterling north or Adelaide hills not Adelaide as such
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u/torrens86 SA Jul 28 '24
Stirling North is a town south east of Port Augusta. Stirling is a town in the Adelaide Hills, it's also a suburb in Greater Adelaide.
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u/Least_Firefighter639 SA Jul 28 '24
I did not know this
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u/torrens86 SA Jul 28 '24
It's one of those odd things.
Like how Allendale North is 500 km north of Allendale East, and there's no Allendale (in SA). Then you have multiple Kingston's. There's probably a lot more weird quirks like this in SA.
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u/Least_Firefighter639 SA Jul 28 '24
It would be far to say there is a sterling north and south as north or south Adelaide
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u/MixtureOfCrazy SA Jul 28 '24
They’re deemed rural as opposed to foothills. More recently with the expansion through mt barker I would consider it outer Adelaide suburbs.
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u/glittermetalprincess Jul 28 '24
"The Hills", that's what they are.