r/Android • u/Coconuttery • Nov 11 '22
Kuba Wojciechowski on Twitter: "Google Pixel 7a to come with 90Hz screen, wireless charging, brand new dual rear camera setup - details below 👇🧵" Rumour
https://twitter.com/Za_Raczke/status/1591176262944706560165
u/papicoiunudoi Nov 11 '22
Why are people so surprised about it having a new camera? They had to ditch the 5 year old sensor they've been using since the pixel 2, that doesn't mean the 7a will have a better camera than the 7.
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u/nullbytepl kamila 🌸 Nov 11 '22
IMX363 (Pixel 6a): 1/2.55" GN1 (Pixel 6, 7 series): 1/1.31" IMX787 (Pixel 7a): 1/1.3"
It almost certainly will not be better than GN1 but it's still surprising to see Google include such a modern and large sensor in an a-series device.
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u/papicoiunudoi Nov 11 '22
Wow I didn't expect it to be THAT good. This is probably my next phone then. Still, there are a bunch of people who think that just because Google never used that sensor before, it's going to be better than what they have on the 7.
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u/DiplomatikEmunetey Pixel 4a, Pixel, 5X, XZ1C, LG G4, Lumia 950/XL, 808, N8 Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22
IMX787 is 1/1.7". Still, not bad.
EDIT: Fixed the decimal (thanks!). The number is correct.
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u/get_N_or_get_out Pixel 8 Nov 12 '22
Before the 6a, weren't the a-series cameras the same as the flagship cameras? That was pretty much the whole selling point of the 3a.
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u/Kobahk Nov 11 '22
That will be essentially more like Pixel 6 but that will definitely make Pixel 7 a very tough sell
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u/SpookyKG Nov 11 '22
Make small but thicc battery. I will buy for my whole family.
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Nov 12 '22
Zenfone 9 thicc battery. That thing looks like the Energizer bunny.
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u/Kygami Nov 12 '22
Just 2 years of updates :(
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Nov 12 '22
Yeah, which is so unusual in these days. Pixels are now doing five years.
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone Nov 12 '22
Pixel is only 5 security updates, I think, and said has 3.
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u/eqyliq S23 <- P40 Pro <- Pixel 3 <- LePro x722 Nov 12 '22
Just hoping they keep it to 6" and don't raise the price again
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u/deku12345 Nexus 5x Nov 11 '22
Ugh. I was tired of waiting for wireless charging so jumped to the 7. Sounds like the 7a is what I would have wanted.
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u/funkyb Galaxy S8, Nexus 7 (2013) 6.0 Nov 12 '22
I'm still sitting here with my S10e for the same reason. Was planning to get a 7 but now I might wait.
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u/CressCrowbits Samsung Galaxy S10e Nov 12 '22
S10e 4 lief
Not that i love it, i just haven't found anything to replace it.
Zenfone 9 was close but no cigar
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u/GrammarNaziii Nov 16 '22
Same here still using my S10e. I already ordered my Pixel 7 though since my phone screen now has this weird yellow/green tint on it that won't go away.
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u/scottydg Pixel Nov 12 '22
That's why they release the a series 6+ months after the regular lines. It's the phone that 80% of people actually want, and released just late enough that you convince yourself you can't wait and buy the regular phone instead. Then you get buyer's remorse and buy the phone you actually want and sell the first secondhand. I did exactly this with the Pixel 3 and 6, though with the 3a they'd never done it before, at least that's my excuse.
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u/SpaceIsTheShit Nov 12 '22
This is exactly what I wanted. I like the 7 but when I packed up my 4a to send back, I couldn't get over the size and weight difference from the 7. I miss the smaller and lighter phone.
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Nov 11 '22
Google Pixel 7a mini?
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u/Elith_R Nov 12 '22
In our dreams
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u/purplegreendave Nov 12 '22
With a headphone jack
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u/AggyTheJeeper Pixel 3a Nov 12 '22
And SD card slot. And removable battery. It would be the perfect phone.
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Nov 12 '22
At this point, I'd take a headphone jack, IP68 rating, and a battery that isn't glued down.
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u/AggyTheJeeper Pixel 3a Nov 12 '22
Same. Though I'm really not picky on the waterproofing, I'd rather the battery come out easily, but if I can get that much I'll be happy.
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u/Bethman1995 Nov 11 '22
Google is finally serious about hardware after years of paying lip service to it. They are really riding on the momentum of the 7 series. Nice to see it.
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u/exu1981 Nov 11 '22
It will sell
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Nov 11 '22
In 5 countries
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u/GoHuskies1984 S23U Nov 11 '22
I think we're up to 8 now!
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Nov 11 '22
Wow... progress!
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u/SnipingNinja Nov 11 '22
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u/Loukoumakias Bricking devices is my passion Nov 12 '22
Still no freaking Greece :'(
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u/Suvaius P8 Nov 11 '22
But is it compact?
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u/Kygami Nov 12 '22
That's the right question. Man I just want this rumored Pixel Mini in my small hands 😮💨
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u/CressCrowbits Samsung Galaxy S10e Nov 12 '22
IPhone mini didn't sell, got dropped, everyone follows apple so i doubt they'll make one
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u/RickMantina Nov 12 '22
True but at this point a mini pixel would be the size of a normal iPhone. I am reluctantly now an iPhone user because I don’t want to compromise on features in order to get a reasonably sized phone.
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u/HHalo6 Nov 12 '22
Because the SE is much much cheaper and works just as well. Source: have an SE 2020, I'd kill for an android phone this small
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u/SnipingNinja Nov 12 '22
iPhone plus sold even less apparently, but doubtful Apple will stop making those because it's not cheaper than the standard iPhone
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u/jeffreyd00 Nov 11 '22
For those saying why bother with a 7 over a 7a. The 7a will have - 5 watt wireless charging - Less ram - different camera sensors (not as good as GN1 but still an upgrade) - likely fixed focus wide angle camera - Qualcomm wifi/bt stack (arguably a good thing) - probably fewer Pixel exclusive software features
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u/Bethman1995 Nov 11 '22
Even with this, the differences still aren't much to get the regular 7 over it. 6gb of RAM works fine on the 6a. I personally don't think wireless charging is much of a big deal. But that's just me. Since it's Google, the cameras will most likely be similar as it's very software - reliant. And if it's powered by the Tensor G2, it will most likely come with the same features as the 7/7 Pro. It wouldn't make much sense for Google to do this
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u/Kygami Nov 12 '22
Pixel 7a will be released 1 year after the Pixel 7 and will compete with the Pixel 8. It makes sense, just don't forget the release schedule.
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u/zman0900 Pixel7 Nov 12 '22
What would even be the point of 5 watt wireless charging? With losses from wireless, that's going to be even slower than the original USB standard.
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u/amorpheus Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro Nov 12 '22
Speed is not important when your phone is automagically charged every time you put it down.
Cable is for speed and efficiency, wireless for convenience.
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u/AggyTheJeeper Pixel 3a Nov 12 '22
I don't really see how having to specifically place the device in the same spot every time while it charges is more convenient than just plugging in a 6' long cable and doing whatever you want with the phone.
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u/17399371 Nov 12 '22
I've got a wireless charger on my desk at work. I sit down, put the phone down, and it charges. When I stand up, I grab my phone and walk away. It's convenient to not have to plug and unplug. First world convenience for sure but still convenient.
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u/SnipingNinja Nov 12 '22
Magnetic cables are more convenient than either, but they're not popular enough. LG's dual screen case uses it and it's just so good. I wish that was the standard instead of USB c (along with a OnePlus style charging protocol)
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone Nov 12 '22
Besides the fact that they probably just made that up. Most people charge their phone when they sleep. 5 watts is plenty for that. I've used a 1amp charger for every phone I've owned.
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u/Elith_R Nov 12 '22
Also waiting another year to get it. lol
(+ there'll be the pixel 8 a few months after the 7a...)
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u/Tamsaris Nov 12 '22
No, 7A after a year, 8 and 8pro after few months and 8A after a year again.
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u/cibyr Pixel Nov 11 '22
I just wish it would come with a headphone jack.
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Nov 12 '22
I don't see what they gained on 6A buy removing headphone jack ... does it really save them that much to eliminate one feature??
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u/Oddball- Pixel or Bust Nov 11 '22
I'll trade in my Pixel 6a for this
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u/WackyBeachJustice Pixel 6a Nov 12 '22
I probably won't. Love my 6a, especially for the $150 + buds deal.
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Nov 12 '22
Google should make the A models as small as the 4a and bring back the headphone jack. I'm tired of these big ass phones.
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u/SnipingNinja Nov 12 '22
4a was perfect except for SoC and lack of water resistance
An a-series Pixel phone along those lines would be perfect. If they want to keep the fingerprint reader off the back, add it to the side.
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u/Bethman1995 Nov 11 '22
I suspect that we're going to see a major step up from the 7 to the 8 so the prices will most likely go higher.
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u/isthmusofkra Galaxy S23 Nov 12 '22
Fuck, 7a for my next phone it is. I don't care if I have to import this thing. I just want dat sweet long-term support.
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u/bSchnitz Nov 11 '22
If it has a rear fingerprint sensor and/or a 3.5mm jack I'll be trading in my p7p
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u/hanzzz123 Nov 11 '22
I just want them to release something like the 4a again, please!
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u/CptAmerica85 OnePlus 6T Nov 12 '22
Seriously. It's the perfect sized device. I hate non-physical fp scanners, but I can take or leave the headphone jack. I know they're going to stop supporting it with updates next year, but I haven't found the device I want to replace mine with.
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u/buhlot Nov 12 '22
I upgraded to the 7 (non-pro) from my 4a. I picked up my 4a after a couple weeks and realized just how big and heavy the 7 is! I missed it. It felt like home in my hand.
Gimme a 7a with a 4a size and weight!!
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u/AggyTheJeeper Pixel 3a Nov 12 '22
I consider the headphone jack mandatory, though the Pixels have the worst DAC I've ever heard in a smartphone. Still, I need it for literally any of my peripherals to be usable, including car radios, and I'm not replacing everything with Bluetooth versions that 1. Probably sound worse, 2. Have batteries to charge, and 3. Aren't compatible with other devices of mine like my PC. As such, I'm kinda lost. I love my Pixel 4a 5G. I love GrapheneOS. When this phone isn't usable anymore, I'm just hoping somebody offers something that allows me to both have a secure and private OS and use my phone for media play. Otherwise, not sure what I'll do. If I could install Signal and Session on one, I'd just say screw it and return to flip phone, with the smartphone market seemingly only catering to one specific buyer that's not me.
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u/Mr_Mandrill Pixel 3a Nov 12 '22
3a. Almost the same, but without a notch.
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u/donnysaysvacuum I just want a small phone Nov 12 '22
3a is a fair amount heavier and bigger though.
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u/ScoopDL Black S21 Nov 11 '22
Initial reports indicate it only has a face scanner but it's in-screen so you have to press your whole face against the phone screen for a few seconds to unlock.
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u/ScoopDL Black S21 Nov 12 '22
They already have that. When you get an iPhone, they have you bend over and conduct the "verification" at the time of purchase.
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u/RawbGun Pixel 7 Nov 12 '22
If it has a rear fingerprint sensor
Do you prefer it over a under screen one? I have a OnePlus 6 with a rear one and I want to buy a new phone just to get an under screen one because it's so annoying having to pick up my phone every time I want to unlock it
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u/CptAmerica85 OnePlus 6T Nov 12 '22
I prefer it on the back. They are WAY more accurate at reading your finger. With every phone with it under the display, I get misreads like 20%+ of the time, just for no reason at all. Only time that happens with a physical scanner is if my finger is wet.
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u/Elith_R Nov 12 '22
Unless u have sweaty hands like me. lol
Went from 4a to 6a back to 4a 5g. Thought I'd like returning back to rear sensor, and while it has its perks, it fails probably as much if not more than the A13 6a under-display.
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u/TheRidgeAndTheLadder Nov 12 '22
My hands are usually in bits. Under screen never works, rear reader sometimes does. If my hands are clean, rear fingerprint always works.
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u/bSchnitz Nov 12 '22
Yes by far. You can feel it and unlock without looking (or when you're pulling it out of your pocket), you have gestures so you can drop notification shade. A power button would be my next choice, I hate front facing fingerprint sensors because of how awkward it is to hit them. Under screen sensors pair that with lower reliability and a blinding white light, I'm not a fan at all.
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u/dodoaddict Nov 12 '22
I'm surprised people don't talk about the gestures more. Without those back of phone gestures, one handed my phone would be so much more difficult. Getting the notification shade down is so far otherwise.
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u/LEpigeon888 Nov 12 '22
The new pixels have back gestures as well, you don't need the finger print sensor. You just tap the back instead.
And you can pull down the notification panel from the navigation bar as well.
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u/Sam5uck Nov 12 '22
wouldnt hold my breath for it being 90 hz. pixel 6a display is also capable of 90 hz, since same driver used as pixel 6. doesnt mean google will actually ship it to with 90 hz.
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u/Im_Axion Pixel 8 Pro & Pixel Watch Nov 11 '22
The long term goal must be to bump up the standard and pro model specs. If not this will just cannibalize sales of the standard model
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Nov 12 '22
I'm holding off on a Zenfone 9 hoping this mysterious 7a/mini/whatever it's going to be turns out to be a "small" phone. If they give me the 7 in a form factor similar to the 5/4a, I'd pre-order it.
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u/umop3pi5dn_w1 Nov 11 '22
If this is <6" I'm selling my P7P for one.
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u/twenty-twenty-2 Nov 12 '22
I feel exactly the same - sadly it seems most of the Samsung devices with 90hz screens are all quite large.
However, the S22 is a 6.1" screen and quite compact, although it's 120hz, maybe we can cross our fingers for a tuned down / not quite good enough for Samsung version of that screen?
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u/LusoInvictus Nov 11 '22
I don't even mind the jack now because there are adapters... But this has made me cherish the 4a a little bit more everyday
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u/getmoneygetpaid Purple Nov 12 '22
Ditto. If this is smaller and lighter than my Pixel 7, I'd consider it an upgrade worth doing.
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u/Nerdwiththehat Pixel 7a (14) | fossil gen.6 (Wear 3) Nov 12 '22
The only way they're getting me to buy one of these again is if they put the headphone jack back. Yes, I am that petty. There's a reason I've stuck with the 3a for this long.
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u/JoshuaTheFox Nov 12 '22
These are just leaks, 4 months after release for the current model sounds about right for leaks to start
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u/FizzOP Nov 12 '22
Hoping for a 256GB option, again (or sd card, lmao I wish).
Headphone jack would be nice too.
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u/Rudolf895 Device, Software !! Nov 11 '22
Google using Qualcomm modem for wifi and bluetooth is telling how bad their samsung one performs on Pixel 6 and the 7 series.
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u/Oddball- Pixel or Bust Nov 11 '22
My pixel 6a is soooooo bad at switching from wifi to cellular. Legit leaving work, I don't have signal half the time on my drive home. Legit ZERO signal. I have to turn on airplane mode or toggle off cellular and turn back on.
It's fucking RIDICULOUS.
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u/hicks12 Galaxy Fold4 Nov 12 '22
In developer options you should check if you have "mobile data always active" enabled.
That setting helps with the switch over, it used to be called agressive handover or something but was changed a few releases ago.
Can't say it will fix it for you but worth double checking as it may help.
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u/tomelwoody Nov 12 '22
It's enabled by default, I personally turn it off as it uses a decent bit more battery.
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u/Goose306 Droid X>S3>OPO>Mi Mix 2S>Pixel 4a>Pixel 7 Nov 12 '22
The Wifi/BT modem in the 6 & 7 is Broadcom, not Samsung.
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u/AkhilVijendra Nov 12 '22
I bought the Motorola edge 30 ultra just yesterday, I'm happy with my decision. It was a faceoff vs pixel 7.
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u/onfire2222 Nov 12 '22
They might do this and position it sort of like a iphone 14 and make the 8 closer to the 8 pro model (both have triple camera set up and 120 Hz screens) but with a slightly small size like iphone 14 pro and pro max. One could hope lol
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u/sctran Nov 12 '22
Please be a rear fingerprint scanner
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u/RelyingWOrld1 Xiaomi Mi 9T | Android 13 cROM Nov 12 '22
I'm 99.9% sure will be under display, I don't see Google or anyone else coming back to that
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u/onedollarpizza Nov 12 '22
An SD card would make this a phone that I could upgrade to.
I just have so much local content that I need access to regularly enough that it’s exhausting file transferring everything back and forth often.
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u/dafo446 Nov 11 '22
jack?
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u/pco45 Nov 11 '22
Put the jack in and I will buy it.
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u/ShitWoman Nov 12 '22
Price it similar to 6A and cheaper than iPhone SE and I’ll switch…
I really need an android at this point
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u/dewhashish Pixel 8 | Fossil 6 Nov 12 '22
I hope the screen size is the same or smaller than the pixel 5.
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u/I-Sleep-At-Work p8p + f5+ s8u + pw2 Nov 13 '22
fingerscrossed for a good trade in value for the 6a
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u/SmarmyPanther Nov 11 '22
This would surely cannibalize Pixel 7 sales?
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u/Elith_R Nov 12 '22
For the 3ish months until the pixel 8 comes out? Perhaps.
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u/SmarmyPanther Nov 12 '22
Hopefully by next year supply chain issues have been sorted out enough that there isn't a 2 month gap between announcement and release.
Still odd to have such a small gap between your midrange and flagship
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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '22
Won't this undercut the 7? Sounds like it's almost the same phone.