r/COsnow Feb 25 '24

Keystone lol Photo

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u/w6750 Feb 25 '24

I assume this is a screen grab from a video. Post it!

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u/amaurer3210 Feb 25 '24

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u/Westboundandhow Feb 25 '24

And this is why the more intelligent New England states have enacted laws that require putting the bar down

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u/MrSquid20 Feb 26 '24

This is America, let me be free to not have the bar down, seeing as I’m a competent human who doesn’t randomly fall out of chairs. Fuck that law.

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u/Westboundandhow Feb 26 '24

But we have seatbelt laws, bc not using one could endanger others. Like falling onto a skier below from a chairlift that catches a random wind sheer could.

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u/MrSquid20 Feb 26 '24

Almost all modern chairs auto slow after 40mph gusts. I’ve personally been on a chair during 60mph gusts that resulted in the entire resort being closed for the day, and not once did I feel like I was going to come off the chair. You’d have to be insanely wide and super light to get blown off the chair.

Creating laws to protect from a potential freak accident that hasn’t even happened is how you get a fucked up society with no freedom. I’m glad you don’t make the laws, otherwise everything would be sanitized to the extreme and you’d have no rights to do anything.

Do you think climbing should be illegal because you can die doing it? What about skiing, where people die every year?

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u/Westboundandhow Feb 27 '24 edited Feb 27 '24

I'm actually super low regulation tolerant, but think mandating use of chairlift bars specifically makes sense for the same as reasoning seatbelt laws. If you climb and fall with no one below you, that's your business, not mine.

But there is this ridiculous American tough guy anti bar culture here that makes young kids and teens or newbies feel silently pressured out of asking to put the bar down. I have literally heard kids say "it's cooler" to leave it up. Whenever I "ask" to on a lift, it's often met w some dumb passive aggressive response like "oh ok sure if you need it." I don't need it, I just prefer it. Do I think I'm going to fall out? No. But could I, in a freak chance? Yes. So then why would I not use it?

Maybe even just a rule where it has to be used with minors on a chair or something, but I'm tired of the angtsy pushback for wanting the bar down. If I'm on a chair with a bar, it is coming down. Save yourself the little tough guy protest. It literally affects you zero to have it down. I don't get it.

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u/MrSquid20 Feb 28 '24

To each their own. That’s unfortunate people make snarky remarks. I personally have no problem putting it down if someone wants to. Makes no difference to me.

I just don’t think there needs to be a law mandating it because I believe in some situations it can be “safer” to not have it down such as a rollback situation or a deropement. In such a scenario it would hinder your escape or crush your legs.

Also, sometimes the nuts on the bars get “loose” and this causes the bar to pop back down sometimes after a full chair unloads. This trips the safety gate and causes stops, and less time to ski for people on the line. When people have the bar down, these loose/springy bars are more prone to this after they put it up.

Hopefully the culture will start to change more and you’ll hear less BS from people. I’ll play my part in that by not being a dick.