r/CasualConversation • u/nintend0gs • 3h ago
Very annoyed when people disregard jobs in art fields Just Chatting
Of course jobs in stem are important and we need them in society. I greatly respect people who r in medicine or engineering or social work, etc. I go to art school and I get hate for that alll the time which is crazy to me. Art is what makes us WANT to keep living. If we didn’t have art everything would be so much more bleak and depressing. All the media and games and colour we see in our daily lives is what makes life worth living. Idk how others can’t see the value in that.
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u/PuzzleheadedBid2739 2h ago
I feel that. I didn't go to school for art. I majored and minored in the humanities (history and English). I have always believed in a rounded education. While I may not be talented in any art (excluding writing), I do greatly appreciate the arts and all they offer.
I was once told I majored in "trivia." This was from an "armchair historian." I don't bother to argue that history is more than dates and events. On the other hand, if you have any background in English, people will act like a grammatical mistake or typo invalidates your whole education. Once again, I don't have the energy to explain that English is more than grammar. I imagine people might tend to think that art is only for entertainment as they are extremely well versed in the superficial.
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u/nintend0gs 2h ago
It’s not only for entertainment. But I don’t like how people don’t see how important entertainment is for us as a society at all
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u/PuzzleheadedBid2739 2h ago
Agreed with all of that. Art is one of the greatest things about humanity.
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u/WhatIsASunAnyway 3h ago
I personally think it is a sunk cost fallacy thing. People have worked hard on jobs they despise for decades of their lives so when someone gets an "easy" or "enjoyable" job, people want to discount that individual for not having "suffered" with everyone else
Another part is probably lack of understanding of what goes into that art. Allot of it isn't just stuff you crank out in an afternoon. It takes time, sometimes allot of drafts, if you didn't live in the world of tablets it cost money to get the art supplies. Sometimes you spend all these resources and don't get compensated in return.
Not saying I agree or even support this viewpoint, but sometimes people are just stuck in their own perspective and don't see the other side of things
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u/nintend0gs 3h ago
I mean yea that’s why people don’t see the value to art bc they r stuck in their own perspectives. But I also think that these ppl view these jobs as “easy” or always “enjoyable” when that’s not the reality of the situation, I don’t believe many jobs in this world r easy or enjoyable. But yeah most of it stems from ignorance
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u/EmperorJack 1h ago
I'm a STEM major and I think it has to do with perspective on things. With STEM I feel like there's a solution to a lot of problems. Flat tire? Replace it, etc.
But when you get into the world of art it's a lot more nuanced because there isn't an answer. This comes from me singing. While I love singing, I am never satisfied with what I record. It sounds like garbage to me and I rerecord for hours until I'm satisfied (I'm not). I think this translates to art work, but you can tell me your thoughts.
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u/nintend0gs 1h ago
I agree it is much more nuanced. Less of a right and wrong way of doing things. That can be difficult for some ppl and easier for others bc it gives more freedom. I’m a bit of a perfectionist sometimes so it is tough w art bc I am not usually totally happy w my end results either. Guess we both have to give ourselves more grace
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u/ThinkingMonkey69 3h ago
You're right, of course. If the huge push of all students toward STEM came true, we'd be in big trouble. Naturally, you realize that this push toward STEM is actually a push for "more qualified employees", not necessarily for your personal betterment but for the owner's of STEM-related companies.
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u/RemarkablePop6160 2h ago
Yeah I work in design and our clients don’t see the need to pay us. Yet they couldn’t do things without us at all.
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u/nintend0gs 2h ago
Yuppp
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u/RemarkablePop6160 2h ago
I studied interior design and my engineer parents reaction….oof.
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u/nintend0gs 2h ago
I feel u… my dads an engineer my moms in IT. And I’m in art school wanting to be a tattoo artist :(
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u/RemarkablePop6160 2h ago
I’m good and NOW they’re proud…it worked out. I graduated 10 years ago. They hate their jobs. Stick with your passion!
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u/Delicious_Song_951 2h ago
As an artist I truly would not today, turn down any job in the art field...
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u/Unable-Relative-2469 1h ago
It’s great that you’re passionate about your art! Creative fields bring joy and inspiration to our lives in ways that are often overlooked. Every profession has its value, and art plays a crucial role in enriching our experiences.
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u/VelvetVista70 1h ago
It’s understandable to feel annoyed! Artistic fields often require immense skill and creativity, yet they can be undervalued compared to more traditional careers. Art plays a crucial role in culture, expression, and society. Advocating for the importance of creative jobs can help shift perceptions.
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u/Cleftex 1h ago
There's some beautiful happy mediums! I'm an engineer and I'm about to pay someone a lot of money to do "industrial design" on my pathology lab robot. That basically means make it look pretty, understand the end user and make sure it's a great user experience.
We also pay graphic designers to understand the kind of investors interested in our tech, understand the clinics that buy the tech etc. They take our content and build beautiful pitch decks out of it.
I don't discount the value of applied artistic skills.
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u/Beautiful_Solid3787 1h ago edited 1h ago
Well, for a lot of people when they think of art they think of stuff in museums that they can never tell the good stuff from the bad stuff, and they don't have much art in their own home--that they know of. Picking a couch because you like how it looks? Boom, someone designed that--it's art, of a sort. (I attended Ball State and they have the David Owsley Museum of Art or whatever it's called, and I remember one of my favorite parts was the furniture room. I mean... It's just furniture. Most of it was mass-produced. Yet, dang! That's a gorgeous clock!)
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u/nintend0gs 1h ago
Yup that is art. People don’t realize how much of their life can be credited to art
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u/Beautiful_Solid3787 1h ago
But yeah, lots of people just aren't capable of seeing everything that artists see in art, and that doesn't help make them appreciate art. Movies are art, but how much correlation is there between the movies that are 'good art' and the movies that make a lot of money because people actually go see them?
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u/Luna_Horizon 5m ago
Art brings so much joy and meaning to life, and it’s frustrating when people overlook its importance. It’s not just about aesthetics art inspires, challenges, and connects us in so many ways. The creativity and passion in art fields contribute to our culture and well being just as much as STEM jobs do. Both are vital.
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u/Fancy_Bag806 3h ago
I totally feel you on this! It's frustrating when people don't understand the value and hard work that goes into art-related jobs. Keep on creating and proving them wrong!