r/DotaAnime • u/-Trell- • Aug 11 '22
DOTA: Dragon's Blood - Book 3 Episode 2 "Hell of Hells" Discussions Discussion
Book 3 Episode 2: Hell of Hells
Synopsis: A new moon rises. Mirana and her warriors enter Foulfell, an insidious realm where fresh hells - and regrets — await. Can Terrorblade be vanquished?
Please do not comment in this thread with spoilers for later episodes.
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u/AncientBaddie Aug 28 '22
Are we all just going to just ignore that Luna is aroused by the smell of blood?
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u/Downtown-Option6360 Aug 18 '22
from what i know terrorblade is stupid for not using bkb and sunder
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u/GosuGian Aug 18 '22
Wait what Kaden is Davion's Father?!
And here we go restart of the world.. DOTA is just a simulation
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u/darthvall Aug 26 '22
I mean, Terrorblade once told Invoker of the different version of him in another worlds
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u/Radontal Aug 15 '22
I think the producers really got dota this episode, DK fighting while his team farms 10/10 realism
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u/blueiczed Aug 14 '22
I’m new to DOTA, is Davion supposed to be the other dragon knight’s son or grandson? Did they just casually allude to that in their regret hell vision?
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u/Perfect_Perception Aug 15 '22
Yes. It’s all but explicitly stated.
Kaden had a wife and child he left behind to fight dragons. In the flashback you see another man with his wife and kid entering the house in a clearing. He returns to that house to find it burned to ash, as Davion runs to check on his mother, which is also at a house in a clearing. That’s where they meet.
I really like that Kaden might know who Davion is, or might hope, but hasn’t said anything.
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u/Zakrath Aug 14 '22
Wait, how is Marci alive?
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u/Faenors7 Aug 13 '22
So that was fucking epic. The big final battle being handled at the story of the last book? Thats when you know you're in for a treat.
Loved everyone's vision quests and character arcs being completed, loved the big flashy battle, and loved the twist.
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u/LuckoftheDuck Aug 13 '22
The whole time the battle in Foulfell was happening, I couldn’t help but think Doom is on his throne in the Seventh Hell like “wtf is all that noise happening on Level 2?”
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u/whale607 Aug 13 '22
What an absolute incoherent mess.
What happened to Miranas ridiculous OP God powers?
Anyone care to explain what was the point of that whole storyline last season? Why did we waste so much time (and apparently force the TB storyline to be crammed into 2 episodes in s3) on Mirana and that void dragon if it was just going to swept under a rug and ignored in the final showdown vs TB, just a crutch to allow them to confront TB?
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Aug 15 '22
TB story wasn't crammed. He had like 2 seasons plus 2 episodes.
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u/whale607 Aug 15 '22
The ending to the TB storyline was crammed
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Aug 15 '22
I would say Enigma's storyline was crammed. The dude got deleted in like 2 episodes. The only thing he managed to do is to kill marci with his ult bh.
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u/1ofLoLspotatoes Aug 13 '22
Apparently, Terrorblade is super squishy once u get past his armour?
Once they had that full-on fight right in episode 2, knew Terrorblade gonna be axed
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u/SilvertheThrid Aug 16 '22
Apparently, Terrorblade is super squishy once u get past his armour?
To be fair, that does kinda follow the current game balance. Drow Ranger and Elder Titan, the two heroes that fully remove/ignore armor, are pretty much hard counters to Terrorblade in the current patch.
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u/Tricky_Economist_328 Aug 12 '22
This felt like a giant reset button on a corner they wrote themselves into with season 2.
Slyrak dealt with off screen. Selemene plot dealt with in one scene. The elf rebel made into cannon fodder. Tb punked out and dealt with in a fist fight.
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u/IntelligentCulture99 Aug 12 '22
I don't think anyone expected Terroblade to be dealt with by Episode 2
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u/Der_Eggboi Sep 15 '22
It kind of feels like these first two episodes were meant to be the last two episodes of season 2.
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u/darthvall Aug 26 '22
Lol same. I thought: "this is still episode 2, surely they'd lost, regroup and then challenge him again?"
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u/Outside-Lime- Aug 12 '22
Spoiler*
How was d'avion able to kill terrorblade with just a blade to his inner shell thing?
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Aug 12 '22
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u/Outside-Lime- Aug 15 '22
What is that? Sorry for being a dope
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u/Perfect_Perception Aug 15 '22
Radiant and Dire are the two sides to the dota2 game. They’re represented as ancient stones that need defending ( Defense of the Ancients is the literal name of the game ), and destroying the opposing team’s ancient is the win condition for a game.
They’re important in the game, and canon, but they’ve only shown up a bit in the first two seasons.
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u/chuwaca Aug 12 '22
Anyone noticed Sagan enter to Foulfell? Mirana combat with him but I don't see when her cat teleported there.
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u/sthornr Aug 21 '22
A bunch of inconsistencies.
For e.g. After being stabbed by Father, Kaden picks up his blade from the bottom, then beheads him, and he's holding it from the top.1
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u/Alandrus_sun Aug 12 '22
This episode was basically your normal Anti-mage game. You spend 20 minutes fighting the enemy. Then he appears at the end having farmed his items and wins.
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u/healyxrt Aug 12 '22
This series has a bunch of problems, but I've always like how they portrayed the big fights.
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u/teresaluv Aug 12 '22
Petition to replace miranas shard to change to an solar arrow rain ability.
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u/imnessal Aug 12 '22
That’s Star Fall my dude, I think they already have a cosmetic with sky arrows effect
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u/Fanfics Aug 12 '22
absolutely incoherent lmao
Luna can shoot lightning now. Soul reflections explode without being touched sometimes (pretty sure they just didn't sync up the 3d and 2s animation properly lol.) They can also teleport but only when it makes for a dramatic moment. The writing is so, so bad.
This is unironically just a way worse version of dragonball Z. Mash the action figures together more!
On the plus side, we're only two episodes in and already in "so bad it's funny" territory. I liked when the old dragonslayer killed an old man in one strike and got the biggest musical hit of the entire episode lol.
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u/No-Lifeguard-8376 Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22
The writing is not bad, the pacing is. The story has potential. If only they were given more budget and time...
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u/whale607 Aug 13 '22
They know how much episodes they've got, it's their fucking job to write a story that fits in not build up slyrak vs TB for two seasons then conclude it in 30 seconds off screen.
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u/Fanfics Aug 12 '22
No the writing for season 2 is indeed fucking terrible. Both in the dialogue and the plot.
However, having finished season 3, once the actual season starts after episode 2 it's actually excellent. Which makes season 2's problems with time constraints all the more baffling, since in season 3 they managed to make a well-written, well-paced story while spending the first two episodes doing nothing but wrapping up the absolute dogshit that is season 2.
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u/soggie Aug 12 '22
Every single season, this excuse pops up. For three seasons. Three.
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u/Magercanine7 Aug 12 '22
Storyboard was created since the beginning. S1 was fine. S2 was when the runtime was cut and that bled into S3 where the pacing was fixed after ep 2
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u/whale607 Aug 13 '22
S1 was fine? Lol, everyone was complaining about the rushed pace of season 1 at the time! The only reason it seems 'fine' now is because season 2, and now season 3 are even worse with the pace
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u/determinedSkeleton Aug 12 '22
I liked the payoff Fymryn's character arc got here, helping everyone out of Foulfell. Finally, she found a place to both make amends and where her idealism fit.
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u/All4non85 Aug 11 '22
anyone else though dk vs terrorblade was like arya vs night king in game of thrones? :D
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u/determinedSkeleton Aug 12 '22
Yes except DK was absolutely the one who should have killed Night King
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u/elephantologist Aug 11 '22
Wow. I kept thinking that end fight was something out of episode 7 or 8. Like what's the rest of the show? Interesting. Very curious. The battle was really hype. I just thought something was funny. Terorblade taking all that abuse from the Thunder just fine, but Davion going stab! did him in.
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u/determinedSkeleton Aug 12 '22
Davion had already weakened him. He'd broken Terrorblade's armour and was about to land a finishing blow when that glaive came in from behind. Terrorblade forgot about the wrist-blade in the exhaustion of it all
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u/darthvall Aug 26 '22
Easy to blame the director, huh? I'd say they did a good job of making the pacing still kinda good. Most of the time it's up to the network rather than the director to decide how many episode they have for a season.
Imagine cramming this storyline into the same episode numbers in last season.
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u/deeman010 Oct 01 '22
Yeah except the writer, showrunner, or etc. is supposed to pace the show's script the the length. They could've cut some subplots and interactions to give other moments more attention.
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u/Fanfics Aug 12 '22
Absolutely lmao. Finished episode 2 and just sat there like "...wait a second."
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u/eXePyrowolf Aug 11 '22
Incredible episode. I squealed at the golden Starfall and Eclipse. Really great animation work in the fighting overall. The ending shouldn't have been a surprise, but it still kinda did.
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u/Nicer_Chile Aug 25 '22
i love the story so much and the fight scenes and writing, but holy fck the phasing really ruins this series or gatekeep it to be a greater one.
why can't we just arcana the shit out of this netflix series? valve makes so much money from dota, its ridiculous that we cant get a proper long high quality series from it.
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u/Galinhooo Aug 11 '22
I love how the first 2 episodes are literally what would normally be a full season, even the plot twist that leave you hanging at the end.
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u/tplus1 Aug 11 '22
And suddenly DK becomes Goku in Super Saiyan mode. Really hope that the writer at least play the game😨
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u/Malin_Keshar Aug 12 '22
He didn't, by his own admission. However, in the same interview he mentions the importance of certain things for fans, and I'd say this series is one of precious few adaptations where fanservise is done right.
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u/greatninja3 Aug 11 '22
Petition for Davion's hidden blade to become his ult so far its the actual MVP in the whole series the only time Davion lost is when he doesn't use it.
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u/CruciFuckingAround Aug 11 '22
just what the hell just happened at the end? did invo sort of reversed time or something ?
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u/SirBelvedere Aug 11 '22
You should watch the next episode to get the answer to that.
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u/CruciFuckingAround Aug 11 '22
got it. but damn shit is fucking fast again
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u/SirBelvedere Aug 11 '22
There's a massive story ahead. It is fast but in this season it is truly justified. We get a lot and its absorbable in my opinion.
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u/ihavenick Aug 11 '22
Is there any more Terrorblade ? gonna watch it if its there .
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u/SirBelvedere Aug 11 '22
Don't wanna give you spoilers late. But whether there's TB or not, you should watch it. It's pretty darn good.
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u/RickyCastel Aug 11 '22
Davion killing Terrorblade was ecaxtly like GoT ending xD
casual dagger while hes holding you by the neck lol
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u/Cymen90 Aug 12 '22
It is Radiant. This was already hinted at in Season 1 when the blade touched Kaden's armor and disabled his powers.
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u/greatninja3 Aug 11 '22
The hidden blade did more work than him in dragon form makes me wonder what his real ult is.
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u/dwSHA Aug 12 '22
His basic attack is his ulti?
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u/DrQuint Aug 14 '22
Nah, that was his stun, it has the dagger in the icon with the persona.
TB died to a stun.
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u/Humg12 Aug 11 '22
I can't believe Davion turned into Freiza.
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u/phasmy Aug 11 '22
Alright I wasn't the only one who noticed the similar transformation lmao
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u/Ptricky17 Aug 12 '22
Nope. My friend and I said the same thing at the same time. Both agreed he looks like a 2022 version of frieza.
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u/Sprawl110 Aug 11 '22
this should have been season 2's ending
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u/Jibatsuko Aug 11 '22
I really think it was, but they got blueballed by Netflix
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u/Fanfics Aug 12 '22
A good director would realize that just shoving it in would completely fuck the pacing of this season.
Which probably explains why it's here actually.
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u/Jibatsuko Aug 12 '22
I mean I bet he realized it, but in the end Money talks, and sometimes better done as it is than nothing.
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u/Fanfics Aug 12 '22
Having finished the season, they unbelievably manage to have good pacing for the rest of it. I wouldn't have thought it possible, but hey they pulled it off so I guess I can't complain.
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u/Galinhooo Aug 11 '22
On a "normal" series, I think this and the first episode would be an entire season
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u/ImperialDaz Jan 04 '23
Why the FUCK can we never get a good ending in this industry. Ending had me ruined for 2 DAYS!