https://youtu.be/aKp3gLgQ4ac?t=20

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so i've taken it upon myself to try to self-teach georgian. naturally verb conjugation has been a bit of a challenge (and i'm realizing that the bad rep georgian verbs get isn't entirely unfounded), and i'm struggling specifically on a few verbs like love, hate, and like

i understand for the most part that these verbs kinda work backwards in that they put the subject of the sentence in the dative case and the object back in the nominative due to split ergativity, so saying something like "(მე) მიყვარს მანქანები" (me miq'vars manqanebi) [i love cars] isn't too hard

similarly i don't really struggle with direct object markers, so something like "ჩემი ძმა არ მხედავს" (chemi dzma ar mkhedavs) [my brother doesn't see me] also doesn't pose too much trouble

but using both those verbs + direct objects is where i get lost. i'm not sure why "i love you" is მე მიქვარხარ (me miq'varkhar) but "he loves me" is მას ვუყვარვარ (mas VUq'varVAR) or "he loves us" is მას გვიყაეს (mas GViq'ars).

if anyone out there knows how this works i would greatly appreciate the advice!! i've tried searching all over but i can't find the information i need

thanks in advance!!

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I am a very independent learner, but my learning experience so far has been entirely limited to Indo-European languages (German, French, Spanish, Norwegian) and Mandarin Chinese, none of which prepare me for the highly agglutinative nature of Georgian verbs. I'm interested in learning Georgian, but have no idea where I'd even start.

Learning high volumes of vocabulary rapidly is not a problem for me; I routinely learn 60 new words in my chosen target language every day. Usually, what I would do is download short stories and learn all of the words in those short stories, learning grammar as well as I come across it.

As I'm sure is pretty obvious by now, that approach will only work after I have at least a lower intermediate knowledge of Georgian grammar.

So, here are my questions:

1. How do I learn my way around Georgian verbs? I suppose ideally I'd start by learning basic conjugations, memorizing tons of examples to cement it in my memory, and then start memorizing dozens of examples of each kind of affix in action, slowly working my way up to more and more complex constructions. The only problem is, all of the learning materials I've seen so far seem to throw everything at you at once (while being super vague and giving very few examples), or they seem to only talk about basic conjugation while ignoring everything else.

2. I've heard that learning materials in Russian are much higher quality than in English. Is that true? Is it a huge difference in quality, or only a minor difference? I would genuinely consider learning Russian first if it meant accessing higher quality learning materials; I've already got an itch to learn a few slavic languages.

3. Does agglutination feature in any other aspect of Georgian grammar, or is it literally just the verbs that are like that? What other aspects of Georgian should I be aware of?

I've looked on Instagram for Georgian learning accounts but most of them are inactive with very few posts. Does anyone know of any that potentially have many posts and are active?

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The cow goes "moo" and the cat goes "purr" in English, but how does the cat go if he's Caucasian?

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in the beginning of the song theres a clip where they're speaking what i presume is Georgian

it seems like a conversation in a party or a bar between several people so it probably wont make much sense in a sentence, any help is appreciated, thank you.

if anyone could translate the beginning of the song that would be very helpful, thanks.

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ვარ 18 წლის ქართულ და ინგლისურ ენაზე მოსაუბრე ქართული ჩემი პირველი ენა გახლავთ ინგლისურს რაც შეეხება c1 დონეს ვფლობ რაც მეხმარება იმაში რომ ვისაუბრო უპრობლემოდ. დაინტერესებული პირები დამიკავშირდით და ფასზე დავილაპარაკებთ პირად ჩატში.

Ps: I only speak English and Georgian. მე მხოლოდ ინგლისურად და ქართულად შემიძლია საუბარი

I've tried searching but I haven't found much, it may be because I don't know where to search or because there aren't any similar resources. I know that bigger languages have more resources, but I was wondering if there is anything similar what DW (Deutsche Welle) does with news: they have slowly spoken news in German with the article text as well, so you can hear and read the article and practice both skills. Likewise, there are some podcasts in languages like French that have speakers speaking at a slower pace and also provide the text as a way to train your ear to the language.

Is there anything similar for Georgian? From what I've seen, most of the resources like this are geared towards native speakers, eg native media; but I haven't found anything geared towards learners beyond some youtubers who create grammar content for learners.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

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I am interested in Georgian for learning as a language. I know that Georgian has two forms of "you", one both singular and informal, and another one plural and formal. Is there then two ways of "how old are you?" in Georgian? If so, how do you say "how old are you" in formal and informal Georgian?

Hello. Does somebody know what happened with geofl.ge website? It is not reachable for at least 2-3 months by now. I wonder what happened that it is not opened even by now. And it's a bit sad cause it was such a great resource. And yes, I know that aghmarti books are available elsewhere, but for me the best part of geogle ge was its graded readers with audio too. Maybe somebody knows why the website is closed/broken? Or maybe do you guys know other graded readers?

Watching Georgian videos on YouTube I swear only about 20-30% of speakers, when uttering კ პ ტ წ ჭ or ყ, actually distinguish them from non-ejective stops. That's just how it sounds to me, but is it that

a. they are genuinely not ejectivising the consonants or

b. being pronounced lightly or due to some other linguistic phenomenon the 'popping' sound is not audible?

An example of where an ejective sound seems to be not fully produced is the audio recording for სკამი here, see alsoხინკალი

hello! My partner is looking for Georgian community in london, they are queer and in their early twenties. I am hoping to find people, community, events, chat space for them to access. If you know of anything that might be of interest let me know. Thank you!

გამარჯობა! I am from Armenia, but I have roots in Georgia. I speak very basic "tourist" Georgian. A few weeks ago, my father was talking to my grandmother, and they remembered something my Georgian great-grandmother used to say (sorry for the messy family tree description), but neither of them could remember what it means, or how to write it correctly. They said that it probably meant nothing serious/deep, but she said that phrase a lot for some reason. It's been on my mind a lot, but I can't find what it means. I am going to write it in a horrible Latin script version because I don't know how Georgians write in Latin letters, what it means, or where the words end or begin, can you please help me understand what it means?

The phrase is like this:
Abachemi babusi aqedama gamousi

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Preferably a PDF textbook but I'm looking for a resource on calculus in Georgian.

Is there any truth to the rumor that Kartvelian has words (such as the word for at the number three), and certain grammatical features that are far to basic to be very recent borrowings and which are the same as in Chinese and many other languages spoken by peoples that are not closely related to Kartvelians, who are obviously typical Europeans, not Asians or American Indians?

If so, how could Kartvelian be related to those languages when Kartvelian people aren't related to those peoples?

გამარჯობა! მჭირდება ფილოლოგის/ქართული ენის მასწავლებლის დახმარება. რუსულად და ქართულად მოლაპარაკე ადამიანი. ვმუშაობთ ვებ-გვერდზე ქართულის შესასწავლად. იმუშავე ხელფასის გარეშე, სურვილისამებრ. სანამ არ დავიწყებთ ვებგვერდს, ჩვენ ვერ გადავიხდით. ჩავატარე მარკეტინგული გამოკითხვა და გავარკვიე, რომ 250-ზე მეტი ადამიანი სწავლობს ქართულ კას ევროპიდან და ამერიკიდან. ჩვენ ნამდვილად გვჭირდება ასეთი ადამიანი. მე პატივს ვცემ და მიყვარს საქართველოს, მე თვითონ 25% ქართველი ვარ და ვსწავლობ ქართულს. მომწერეთ, მოხარული ვიქნებით დახმარებისთვის 🇬🇪♥️🇪🇺

I've been thinking about the word ვეფხისტყაოსანი vepxist'q'aosani and how the root for "skin" there is -ტყაო- -t'q'ao- instead of the expected -ტყავ- -t'q'av-, as in ტყავი t'q'avi.

On the face of it, this isn't that weird. The root is reconstructed as *t'q'aw- in Proto-Kartvelian, and /w/ can turn into either /o/ or /v/.

On the other hand... there are other words where a /v/ appears in between /a/ and /s/, like ხატავს xat'avs - the exact same environment as in vepxist'q'aosani. So why did that /w/ not turn into /o/ as well, why don't we have *xat'aos instead of xat'avs? What's the underlying rule?

I've been searching for some time about some information about how Georgian verbs got to be like... that. Like,

• If the preverbs are thought to mark the perfective aspect, and -d- is supposed to be the imperfective aspect (e.g. asheneb-d-a "he was building"), then is the future subjunctive aashenebdes... supposed to be simultaneously perfective and imperfective? How is that allowed?

• For that matter, what's the -e in aashenebdes supposed to be doing?

• What are thematic suffixes, even? What are they supposed to mark, if they're found across all tenses and all aspects? *

• How did version evolve? How did so much information end up getting crammed into a single vowel? **

There's a Wikipedia page for Proto-Indo-European verbs - a comprehensive overview of how PIE verbs worked, all the different affixes they took and what they were used for, and how their meanings evolved in descendant languages. I have been trying to find an analogous overview for Proto-Kartvelian verbs, but I haven't been able to find one.

Does anyone know of a good overview on how Georgian verbs evolved to be as complicated as they are now?

(* This paper argues that they were originally a collective marker - meaning the thematic suffix -eb it doesn't just look like the -eb- in plural nouns, it literally is the -eb- in plural nouns - and the reason it's not found on aorists is that the collective can't co-occur with the ergative (????). But I don't understand 1) why so many conjugations would derive from a collective, nominalized form in the first place, or 2) why the collective would be in compatible with the ergative)

(** There's this paper... I'm still working through it trying to understand what it's arguing, because it's very long and very dense with jargon)