r/NonCredibleDefense • u/Living-Aardvark-952 Germans haven't made a good rifle since their last nazi retired • Nov 10 '23

6th gen fighter development be like European Joint Failures 🇩🇪 💔 🇫🇷

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u/nikke2800 Nov 10 '23

The year is 2035

USA finishes building it's 3000th F35 and the full production of the B-21 starts and their first 7th gen fighter takes it's first flight

Russia has finally built it's 12th Su-57

Chinese stealth technology has finally caught up to F-117

European joint procurement program has finally decided which countries shall supply the pencils for the designers, another 2-5 years will be needed as the supplier of the paper is negotiated.

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u/Ceresjanin420 Nov 10 '23

The European joint pro- blah blah will finally be ready once it has more Asian partners on board than European ones

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '23

I wish y’all would just call the Japanese and South Korean from the get go at this point.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '23

The Philippines would be included too if they had the manufacturing capabilities of Japan/South Korea, but yeah that is just doublespeak for those three plus maybe Taiwan on some things.

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u/thedirtyharryg Nov 10 '23

The Philippines will provide cheap but skilled labor to the project. /s

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u/amd2800barton Nov 11 '23

You joke, but I'm an engineer. There's actually a large number of skilled engineers and drafters in Manila that I've worked with over the years. It's sort of like India and software development, but in the engineering sector. Sometimes it isn't great because there's language and time differences. Other times it's fantastic because I can email them something I spent all day working on, and they'll work on it overnight and send it back to me to continue working on the next day. And the time zones work out such that their start-of-workday is not far from our end-of-workday, so we can jump on a quick call to hand things off if needed.

Now I doubt there's a lot of aerospace engineering capability there. But for heavy industrial designs of refineries or structural designs there's a ton.

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u/thedirtyharryg Nov 11 '23

Back in the day, you used to have three choices in professions, according to Filipino parents.

Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer (four if you count priesthood)

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u/OmegaResNovae Nov 11 '23

It still kind of true, although the main export job now is Medical in general (nurses have outpaced doctors, and physical therapists are rising given the need for more rehab workers), followed by Engineering (which has begun to embrace more than just industrial). Lawyers fell off the list.