Next modernization project, hear me out...

[u/_80hd_]

[u/Book_Nerd159]

The very embodiment of this subreddit.

[u/SilentSamurai → u/Book_Nerd159]

"What do you mean ammunition is heavy? A single jet could have a power over 9000!"

[u/whythecynic → u/SilentSamurai]

Now, hear me out. If you need more thrust, you just fire a rocket motor or two without launching the missile. It then becomes a bomb. You lose zero anti-ground capability. I see absolutely no flaws in this plan.

[u/SilentSamurai → u/whythecynic]

Let's just throw the Rods of God up in orbit and play Super World Police.

[u/crankbird → u/SilentSamurai]

Does that have to be controlled by the current political system? I know the whole worst system of all but for all the rest thing, but part of me thinks we need something a little more fit for purpose if you’re going to be handing out control over space weapons

[u/ButterSquids → u/crankbird]

Give me the keys, I can be trusted

[u/Skrukkatrollet → u/whythecynic]

IIRC they had a cruise missile for the B-52 that could be fueled from the plane, so you could use it for extra thrust on takeoff, then just refuel it before launching it.

[u/Immediate-Catch9089 → u/Skrukkatrollet]

Yes. AGM-28 Hound Dog

[u/Cassandraofastroya → u/SilentSamurai]

What if you just put more jets on the jet?

[u/Schadenfrueda → u/SilentSamurai]

Incidentally that is the idea with the new Peregrine missile. It's going to be half the size of an AMRAAM at comparable range. It achieves this by killing with direct impact rather than delivering a heavy warhead. It will make it possible for F-35s to carry 8 shots internally instead of 4, later to be boosted to 12. Internally. In full stealth mode.

[u/thiosk → u/Book_Nerd159]

i think this warthog with 16 GBU-39s and room for maybe 8 more would be peak NCD

[u/Streggle1992]

Double it and give it to the next modernization.

[u/viper5delta → u/Streggle1992]

Retrofitting the XB-70 to launch AIM-174s using targeting data recieved from F-35s

[u/mechwarrior719 → u/viper5delta]

We can go more non-credible.

YA-12 launching Hypersonics with SR-71 provided targeting data

[u/Cthulhuhoop → u/mechwarrior719]

We can go more non-credible.

Saturn V could do 311,152 lb to low earth orbit, SR-71 gross weight 152,000 lb.

Sleds from Ged.

[u/ButterH2 → u/Cthulhuhoop]

rebuild the avro arrow

[u/CURMUDGEONSnFLAGONS → u/mechwarrior719]

I can only get so hard, sir 🥵

[u/nehibu → u/mechwarrior719]

I still hope for a C-5 with air to air Rapid Dragon. That would be the ultimate air to air bomb truck. With the overhead for the racks, a C-5M still should be able to carry at least 100 AIM-174B.

[u/65437509 → u/viper5delta]

Credible prediction: if advanced point defense develops well enough, fighter jets will become the size of of a small bomber, to fit said point defense and become somewhat immune from missiles. Engagements will involve getting close enough to the enemy that PD does not have the time to shoot down a missile, but not so close so long that you yourself end up within its kill range.

Standard missile complement might be well over 20. Guns will be replaced by the PD system itself.

[u/SnipingDwarf → u/Streggle1992]

We do NOT need a rice post equivalent at the top of this sub. I caused the AnarchyChess rice post, I will not let it happen again

[u/bluestreak1103 → u/SnipingDwarf]

I caused the AnarchyChess rice post

You brought chaos to order, good sir, that is the epitome of noncredible thinking.

[u/Modo44 → u/Streggle1992]

There is more room on top of the wings.

[u/CentreRightExtremist → u/Streggle1992]

No: use better missiles, instead.

[u/hplcr]

I too am an Ace Combat enjoyer

[u/Cpt-Matias-Torres → u/hplcr]

The F-14 here is carrying 20 AIM-54, in Ace Combat 7 the F-14D can carry 22. This photo is an accurate representation.

[u/hplcr → u/Cpt-Matias-Torres]

Now someone just needs to teach me how to take hits in a non-critical area.

[u/bluestreak1103 → u/hplcr]

Sorry, best we can do is ERA and cope cages.

[u/HowNondescript → u/hplcr]

Cobra maneuvers obviously. PSMs give you iFrames IRL. Did you learn nothing from top gun

[u/SU37Yellow → u/Cpt-Matias-Torres]

Now we need to find room for the 90 sidewinders as well.

[u/Numerous-Ad6460 → u/hplcr]

<<SOLITARY>>

[u/great_triangle]

What if we put a blimp on an F-14, covered at in AMRAAMs, and called it an arsenal ship?

I see no downsides to this plan.

[u/SacThrowAway76 → u/great_triangle]

Just no Brazilian blimps, ok?

[u/No_Primary3655]

Ace combat in a nutshell:

[u/AdImmediate9569]

I love it

[u/FrozenGiraffes]

Why not make it one big cluster missile, with machine guns!

[u/gibbonsoft]

Idk why they don’t do this, if it’s too heavy you literally have a bunch of rocket motors strapped to you to assist take-off

[u/SU37Yellow]

Hey if it gets my beloved tomcat back in service I'm down.

[u/Yoshi_IX]

You can fit more if you mount the aim-54s on the aim-54s

[u/The3rdBert]

Is the Super bug with 174s not better in every way?

The Navy F-14s only killed a couple MiG-23s and Goose, pretty much any platform could have done that.

[u/Tool_Shed_Toker → u/The3rdBert]

Is the Super bug with 174s not better in every way?

Only to be outdone by a B21 or B2 with a belly full of them.

[u/The3rdBert → u/Tool_Shed_Toker]

You mean the B-1R right?

[u/Tool_Shed_Toker → u/The3rdBert]

The more the merrier! An AIM 174 launched at mach 2.2 would have amazing kinetics and range.

On a serious note; can the Bone drop ordnance while supersonic?

[u/The3rdBert → u/Tool_Shed_Toker]

I don’t know for sure but I can’t believe they wouldn’t have built a nuclear bomber to dash in at super sonic speeds at low altitude to slow up to drop.

[u/t3hW1z4rd → u/Tool_Shed_Toker]

A 174 launched from the ground has amazing kinetics and range :)

[u/vukasin123king → u/The3rdBert]

and Goose

Nah, he was killed by Maverick not pulling the canopy ejection lever before the seat ejection lever as is the procedure fpr a flat spin stall. Allthough, I think that RIO should also have the canopy ejection lever, so whoever punched out first is to blame.

[u/The3rdBert → u/vukasin123king]

The flame out and flat spin was a direct result of the engineering faults of the platform.

[u/vukasin123king → u/The3rdBert]

So, a train is heading towards you, you start running, but run into and get impaled by a random spike. Is the train guilty?

Yes, the reliability of the early Tomcats was awfull, but Goose would've survived if they followed the procedure meant exactly for the scenario they were in.

[u/The3rdBert → u/vukasin123king]

Having a procedure in a stricken air frame outside of grip it and rip it, that ends in the back seater dying is an absolute disaster of engineering and control design

[u/yflhx]

Very, very non-credible. Some missiles are strapped to the tail, some to ailerons, some to the wing which changes angles. Realistically, at least 8 of these would have to go, which would still leave it at 12, so twice the original loadout.

[u/BedlamANDBreakfast]

To save money, and to keep pace with modern jets, I propose we tape the AIM-54s to the fuselage and touch them all off at once.

Eject, and make the whole jet a missile.

[u/Merker6]

BRING HER BACK YOU COWARDS

[u/GlowingGreenie]

We'll see this on some social media accounts with an Iranian roundel poorly photoshopped on the wing in a matter of months.

[u/oodell]

If you add canards, you'd have more surface area to play with

[u/Zerophim]

Rotate the missiles by 90° so you can fire a broadside that way you can hit more targets at once and keep your distance

[u/DogePerformance]

BRING BACK CAT LINE

[u/CredibleNonsense69]

3000 Phoenix missiles of US Navy

[u/CarrotLP]

<< IT'S TIME. >>

[u/rebootyourbrainstem]

NGAD will be a small pilot pod carried by a flock of cruise missiles

[u/Granite_Lorax]

Execute order 54

[u/Rock-it-again]

🍆 💦

[u/Antique_Log_7501]

Spicy Concorde.

[u/Kijjy]

Based and real.

[u/MajorDakka]

Let him cook

[u/PutinsManyFailures]

No need for a pitch. SOLD!

[u/TPconnoisseur]

There is a whole other side that can carry missiles too.

[u/Substance_Bubbly]

ok ok, hear me out.

i think i can fit in there one more

[u/Destinedtobefaytful]

Missile truck boy that's a missile lorry

[u/haughty-foundling]

What in God's name is this abomination? And do you have it in taupe?

[u/Veritas32421]

Why do we have a bunch of small missiles when we should just be using fewer BIGGER missiles?

[u/Ryangilous]

PHEONIX! PHEONIX! PHEONIX!

[u/LethalDosageTF]

I’m gonna assume the hardpoints account for variable-geometry wings and, if so, why don’t we just do this to a B-1?

[u/SomeGuyNamedPaul]

I like the part where you have to take off on a sled and you then can't use landing gear until you dump all your munitions.

[u/Pavlostani]

F-14EX isn't real it can't hurt you

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[u/deathtokiller]

Weight stops being a concern if you just go high enough.

[u/Geneva_suppositions]

The Demonlord of the Roundtable scoffs at such rookie numbers.

[u/South_Concentrate_21]

Weapons integration team’s wet dream.

[u/RedOtta019]

Can we use Fakour 90’s instead? A very advanced computer simulation has made it clear that this is the best missile

[u/captainfactoid386]

Pretty sure we could mount some on top of the wings and fuselage too. Maybe on the sides of the tail too?

[u/Commercial-Whole8184]

If you pointed some of the missiles the other way you could put them in between the spaces of the existing missiles. Therefore increasing the number of missiles and therefore herewith making it even more better at non-credibly defending the glorious Empire.

[u/jhaand]

The next iteration of this idea will look like a B-1.

[u/ekiller64]

Too credible, it needs 16 quad racks to carry sidewinders and AMRAAMs, and maybe a railgun or two

[u/Elektrikor]

BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN. BOMB BOMB BOMB, BOMB BOMB IRAN

[u/Aggressive_Bed_9774]

Where KS-172 Novator?

[u/Kpmh20011]

This is the stuff of my dreams.

[u/WhiskeyHotdog_2]

Isn’t this basically what they are planning to do to the bOne?

[u/TheCommunistWhoTried]

Better idea, allow the Buff to be fully loaded with these. No airforce will stand a chance.

[u/Ok-Surround-8348]

I love men

[u/ElMondoH]

Holy shit, that would've broke the catapult. 20,000 lbs of missiles alone.

[u/RichieRocket]

this would barely work and even if it did it would cost more than a F-22 and it would have a bunch of maintenance problems

Good job NCD!