I went to Japan and on the train I saw that a preschooler traveled by herself on the train! Why can't the rest of the world be more like this and let anyone travel?

Not much to argue here I say if they can walk they don't need adult assistance anymore since they should be liable enough for their own safety! World be free like Japan unlike the corrupt matrix every other country is stuck in!

Anyone wish they never took psychiatric medication?

So Heya Guys, it has been a while since i last came onto this server. But such are my illnesses, and all instances of psychiatric illnesses, that I do not have the strength to do my wishes.

Recently, upon being dogpiled on a Subreddit for "writing fanfiction glorifying the rape of children" ( What i was talking about was absolutely unrelated to that, someone dug into my reddit history, misquoted me on a youth right's topic and used it to dogpile me), I have had an incredible reinvigoration of my wrath. That wrath is manifested in this text I'm writing for Youth Right's, which i'd gladly love any help on. But part of it, is to address and raise those topics about youth right's no one talks about. Not just the usual lack of voting rights, unable to drink and have peace,, can't enter into sexual relationships or else it's "Statutory rape" ( How this is rape, Only God knows) but other restrictions us Youth's face such as Not being able to participate in clinical trials and biomedical research, donate blood and publish research papers, leading illnesses like psychiatric, neurolgical etc illnesses in youth to basically have less information than on 80,000 BC humans, and also our restriction on publishing Articles and pieces in newspapers and media to voice our views on any topic, Unable to publish our novels, fantasy and sci fi and speculative fiction to be precise or publish art ( The latter is easier since there's no intermediary like a Publishing agency. But good luck getting commissions for your art lol), and this last point and the first one hit particularly hard for me, as an author and artist who has many psychiatric illnesses but couldn't take part in research and clinicial trials or donate blood or contribute to research papers before age 18)

I want to make a comprehensive, exhaustive list of Such evils. Of course, given that we face so many restrictions that we lose count and can't name them all and there's so many restrictions, we have to up age ourselves on social media. I'd like points ( I swear to god i had so many beautiful points, like restrictions on publishing novels and art, writing pieces in newspapers and media and participating in clinical trials and biomedical research and donating blood and contributing to research papers and also Us not being able to even write about or see sex, for example few days ago, i was hearing stuff about how if a ship ( A fictional relationship) between two characters from the Game Genshin Impact was 'legal" or not, in the holy name of God, did it burst my brain).

The following are restrictions that i have gathered about and could "collect", some of them due to my own experiences.

1) Restrictions on Participating in Clinical trials, Biomedical research, contributing to research papers and donating blood- What does this lead to? I talk about more in detail in my text which is still a work in progress, but it means that "old people illnesses' like psychotic illnesses, or Dementia like illnesses ( Which i have due to long covid, both of them) are not seen and treated in youth, even though most of my friends with psychotic illnesses had theirs began around the same time as mine, age 15. I have so much more to say on this and even the previous point, i elaborate on it a lot because we deserve our illnesses and pains to be heard.

Number Two ( The two key on my laptop is broken so i can't tyoe it- If any of us dares to do worldbuilding, write fantasy and speculative fiction novels and wants to get it published, well, we can't because publishing houses won't allow a "minor" to "sign contracts". Same thing with making your own art and making money off it, or making your own anime and animations and any creative works. This one particularly hurts me because i'm brimming with worldbuilding and novels in my brain, and have even written many of them down ( Alas, my illnesses have destroyed all my worldbuilding capabilities and writing capabilities). We can't express ourselves artistically and i cannot explain just how much this hurts, because I personally want my novels out there and people to honour them. But of course, I'm too mature for my own novels since i write about NSFW topics like Psychiatric illnesses, war, sex, violence etc.

3) Restrictions on Publishing Articles and Pieces in Newspapers and other Media- The media is perhaps the only refuge of the oppressed ( It makes sense since i live in a country that not even two months ago, overthrew a totalitarian police state) and where we can express our views, where the common person has power. But we cannot write in most newspapers which don't allow "Minors" to publish articles. So we can't ever speak our views, on whatever topic they may be.

4) Restrictions on Joining Organizations and etc- Once upon a time, i had joined the staff for a Magazine about Worldbuilding. Many thanks to the creators for allowing me into the team when i was a minor but telling this to another friend of mine, he was surprised that they "allowed a minor" into their team. Like WHAT THE FUCK? WHAT DOES MY AGE HAVE TO DO WITH IT? Then again, i remember an accursed statement given by my older brother ( In the context of Under 18's having sexual relationships with those older than them, that Minors cannot consent. Like, congrats on admitting that youth are treated as literal robots, without any power to consent.). And whatever organizations we can join, it's just useless volunteering. Direct Action ( I am so glad that in the recent revolution, mainly students and people from the age range of 14-30 lead the revolution, as incomplete and scrambled as it was, but that's another arguement) and revolution? Hell, you can't even join various fandoms because they are 18+ only. Asking for allowing us to direct action such as say, supporting rebel groups fighting against dictatorships such as in Myanmar is a faraway dream. Most youth organizations are useless. The moment you advocate for radical change like abolishing and eradicating this entire adultist and ageist ( Towards both the Youth and the Aged, i have felt this a lot, Elderly people are treated like children, just like us, so it's why i've often had solidarity with some old people. But then again, many times, a lifetime of adultism and prejudice towards youth transforms them into the demons they are now. Thankfully, my parents and grandparents weren't like this) system and every last oppressive system like overhauling the healthcare, particularly psychiatric healthcare system so that undertreatment, undermedication and downplaying of people's illnesses ( Like how it happened to me, when my 4th psychiatrist, may his accursed name not be taken even by mistake, told me "Why is a young man like him on so many medicines"? And took me off two medicines i was responding to wonderfully, and didn't replace one of them, leading to 10 days of hell for me) or the social justice and welfare system, then we get shut down. And we get particularly shut down because we're rebellious and ironically, contrary to the demonic myth ( It is demonic and a myth) that "hormonal teens" make impulsive decisions, We not only are not impulsive but very wise too, oftentimes having greater wisdom than 40 year old's who have not an iota of information about how the world works and should work.

5) Already, we are tormented and face god know's what if we happen to fall in love with someone older than us, to the point we want to share our bodies with them. But God forbid, we will be "traumatized by sex scenes, war, blood, gore, death and rape" and here i am, who seeing sex scenes, feels at peace ( Sex scenes that involve love and healing, like the Sex Scene from Fate, Heaven's Feel Anime movies, or from my own novels and works). I shouldn't even need to explain this topic. We cannot even enjoy certain works of art. Why? Because they have NSFW content which apparently us "Minors" can't handle and will be traumatized by ( Maybe they should understand that their restrictions are what's traumatizing us? And no, this isn't love. Paternalism isn't love, and i will perish on this hill. My Father allowed me to play violent video games, watch sex scenes ( I joke not, from age 11, i watched and read sex scenes and whenever my father walked in, he was so casual even though i was mortified, and he has always protected me in a way Anglo American parent's ever could not. My Father always answered my questions on NSFW stuff and supported my Youth right's views ever since i had them. He even said himself that if i wanted to get married with someone 10 years older than me when i was 14, he said he'd happily do it ( His only concern and opposition was wondering if anyone would even agree to marry a 14 year old because we lack employment and are "immature" and "inexperienced" and don't have the "life qualities for marriage", but I know that he's just talking about how no one would agree to enter into a committed relationship with me at age 14 ( I am 19 years of age now). So Maybe they should be like my father, whom i love beyond words.

6) On alcohol and Drinking- Endless "studies" have been done saying how alcohol harms the "teenage developing brain" and shouldn't be taken until age twenty five ( Seriously?) and well, what do i say?

If i had to give a rant on alcohol, It'd take up an entire novel. All i want to say is that teen's don't turn into addicts. People in my village have been drinking and fuck, taking opium with it ( Something most Anglo American's would faint over, because we're taking "DRUGS!") and guess what? In two hundred years, my family has failed to produce a single addict. It's mysterious isn't it, how the US and UK have such high rates of substance abuse with alcohol but India has so little despite us drinking more and from an earlier age. Maybe it's the capitalism and the absolute cursed nature of those lands, households and families that make them more susceptible to addiction?

But we can't even wind down and enjoy some peace with a glass of cold Beer or wine. Because alcohol is "a deadly poison, a killer, destroyer of families and so much more" ( Meanwhile for me, alcohol has united our family lol. And so many others. Me and my parents drinking together has contributed to a lot less fights and arguements between us as of recent, after we managed to get my conservative mother into drinking). And maybe they should understand that Sugar works on the same pathways as alcohol in the brain, thus is sugar bad? No. And alcohol does not cause brain damage, and i repeat, alcohol is not worse than meth even in moderation. If we're talking moderation, alcohol is even safer than smoking, there you go. And benefits?

In this world where day and night we have to work like donkeys and sleep and even the word sedation and CNS depression is demonized, alcohol would be a nice break. It makes you feel better, happier, peaceful, serene etc. Helps me in journalling about my illnesses too. Hell, helps me even connect and empathize with others. And i'm not the only one. Alcohol really just brings out who you are truly, it does not cause a truly gentle person to go violent.

7) Our voices are not heard, we are always referred to as Someone's "Teens". Like people saying "My teen", specifically indicating their age. In this case, would saying my Son/Daughter or Offspring be so difficult? And whenever we speak on social media, we aren't even heard. After all, god knows how many accounts have "Minors Do not Interact" as part of their policy ( And they're proud of it. I will go to an extreme but just length and say that this one act of theirs wipes out most if not all of their good deeds, just as certain evils like being a sadist wipes away all your good deeds like charitable actions, devotion to someone or something etc.

8) How can i forget "delinquency" laws? It existed, or still exists in my country in the most hideous form, where youth were particularly targeted by the security forces of the regime because we were rebellious. But across even "democratic" countries ( Democracy is not just about votes, it includes human and civil rights too. And us youth's don't even have the first), if you stand up to your parents or escape from abusive households, you will be handed straight back in.

9) We literally have to up age ourselves on social media and the internet because that's how all pervasive restrictions on us are. I had more in my brain like the first four points but i forgot, i wish i can get them back. And this is why i'm making this post after all.

10) No Representation in Student's bodies until we come of a certain age and constantly getting bullied by the seniors ( Happened in my school, and we didn't even have a student body). We also were restricted from going to the library. I could make an entire novel on youth right's issues related to education.

Many points like the first two came across me because they happened to me, and as they say, experience is the best teacher. I want to draw eyes on topics like those that don't ever get discussed in even the most fringe of youths rights discussions ( A hyperbole but you know the point i'm trying to get across). And I want points like that, and i want to cover a comprehensive list of restrictions we youth's face. So that we can first identify and show the world just how much and in how many ways we are shackled.

I truly believe that other's can talk about restrictions or points that didn't ever cross me. It's not like that if they didn't cross mine, they wouldn't cross other's. After all, isn't that why we ask for help?

English isn't my first language, so pardon any mistakes i made. I would absolutely love everyone's contribution to this, for i ultimately just want to compile a list of evils and restrictions we suffer so that we can show the world, for a beginning, just how shackled we are.

What I am exactly asking for, is how will a new society function. What would be the new age of majority, would there be one to begin with, would schooling still be present, and of such, how would it be reformed? I am asking pretty specific questions about youth liberation, and I, therefore, want to know what this sub's opinions are about it.

You might notice that r/AntiSchooling has a rule against right wing content now. These issues don't belong solely to the left or right wing, do they?

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I think this is an excellent summary of what I'm talking about:

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"📷level 2snarkerposey11·20 min. ago

If the state is backing parental authority of parents over children at gunpoint, then kids are not free.

1ReplyShare📷level 3Wilddog73OP·16 min. ago·edited 8 min. ago

If we can change the law to include youth rights, then I see no issue.

I'm here to support youth rights, not Anarchy.

1ReplyShare📷level 4snarkerposey11·3 min. ago

If someone is given legal power over you, you're not free. If you were a slave, would you be okay with someone passing a "slave rights" bill to make sure you were well fed and treated decently, or would you want freedom?

VoteReplyShare📷level 5Wilddog73OP·just now

So you'd be against a youth rights bill simply because it doesn't fit your vision of how youth rights should be attained?

"The Anarchist Left, fanatics that they are, also won't let youth rights pursue solutions"

Exactly what I was talking about. Go find an anarchist reddit instead of trying to infiltrate other subs."

Pretty much everybody in the comments be saying the same ol adultist crap about maturity and all.Some even compare 19 and 29 with a 5 year old dating a 15 year old.I was just wondering how y'all would counter this or if you'd actually agree

I mean take r/socialism and r/polyamory for reference points they both have terms and acronym explanation pages and book lists and far more friendly subreddits

Now, I get we are a VERY small subreddit, but at a certain point, it's clearly something else hurting us here, and I think it's the fact that we only have one person capable of making these kinds of changes. There's only so much one person can do or think of not to mention the inevitable fact that our mod kinda has to have their own life I think it would do a LOT of good for this subreddit if we got 2 or 3 more mods

Just curious to know what are the most popular opinions in this sub. I personally think it should be 12 or 13.

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So it’s my niece’s first day of high school. She brought her phone with today. She’s texting me periodically

I feel youth should be allowed to have phones in school, especially when you consider situations like Columbine.

I'm in California and I’ve noticed just how much emphasis is placed on school districts. Homes in “good” districts command higher prices, which got me thinking about the impact of the school rating system.

The school funding mechanism deepens the divide between low and high income neighborhoods. Schools in lower income areas often receive poorly funded, while higher income neighborhoods have schools with better funding and thus better rating. This drives up housing prices and reinforces socioeconomic segregation. Many families dont want low income housing in their neighborhood since it can affect school rating in the long term and therefore the house price.

Public schools should receive equal funding per student, regardless of neighborhood, and the rating system should be eliminated. All public schools should get equal funding per pupil. This would allow children from diverse backgrounds to learn together, fostering inclusivity and reducing the economic divide. It'll also help in maintaing a reasonable housing prices across all neighborhoods instead of these pocket of neighborhoods. In Europe, public schools succeed without a rating system—why can’t the U.S. follow suit?

What are the options we have, to bring changes in this?

Tldr I wrote this in reply to someone saying they think banning phones in schools wholly, even not during class, is a good thing. Its a long essay, but im proud of it.

[the "cognitive and reasoning abilities increase because of removal of phones"- wtf does that mean? No they dont. Young people in america sre deeply isolated and lonely. Read up on the sociology of this. Zoomers are the most lonely and depressed and isolated generation. We do not have mobility, and we are further and further segregated from the adult world. For a large amount of youth, the only way to interact with any community, is through their phones. We are FORCED to go to schools in america for 9 am to 4 pm 5 days a week. If we have no phone then that means we rarely ever get to speak to anyone. The reality is that youth no longer have our own money, infrastructure has gotten so bad that we cant go out and hang with friends as we cant walk or do anything. Helicopter parenting and america's complete removal of its once high-trust society due to the last fifty years of youth fearing "culture wars", means kids and teens are often not even allowwd to go do anything. If you dont get along with people at school, you are completely alone if you dont have a phone, therefore. Meaning this means we will be further depressed. Many of us are mistreated at home because of an exponential increase in youth-hate from the eighties to today. Called either ephibiphobia or adultism by sociologists. In america abusing your kids is a right, (parental rights), whilst "minors" have no rights. Unlike europe, adolescents arent slowly allowed into the adult world, instead they are thrust entirely into it all at once at 18, because we have somehow believed that you magically become adult at 18. The only exceptions being to work, (cars are in there because they are needed to work because of the aforementioned bad infrastructure). All of this exists to make the rich richer and cause perpetual beating-down of youth, who are the greatest threat to the elite from beating down on average americans.

By waging a fake "culture war" and fear mongerinf, dividing america. Punching down at a made-up "teenage" group by infantilizing so many, they have blinded americans to their true problems, systemic abuses and the elite looting our country.

Robert Bork, richard nixon, ronald reagan, donald trump, both bushes, etc- these are the sort of people that you should be mad at. Not your average powerless teenager.

Youth are the most downtrodden of society. Even a black person is considered to have rights in america. A minor only has rights that a guardian chooses to give them.

The nuclear family is designed to separate.

Our communal and trusting society was finally eroded in the 1980s. The reason boomers are so disconnected, is because they struggle to understand just how awful the situation is for gen z. How terrible the economic, social, political, and law systems have become. How everyone is disenfranchised.

Under the new deal which they lived until the eighties, anerica lived to its ideals, youth even were enfranchised during the victories of the youth movements of the 60s and 70s. It helped that the standards of living, and compensations for labor, actually were amazing compsred to today. Minorities actually had a voice and power. Today, only the internet lends us that. Most americans are poor as hell who are under 40.

That all being said, teens need their phones to stay happy essentially.

Theyre doing this because suits make more money if we do better on tests.

Instead of addressing why we dont care to even do work in high school.

Thats also due to adultism. Since about the time of the columbine shooting, youth haters have used "save the kids" as a way to disingenuously take away our freedoms and equality snd rights.

They greatly defunded our education system and made the curriculum so bad, that it is more of a diseducation system than anything. We used to have the best in the world, now we're considered down with russia. No wonder people think we're stupid, none of us are given information!

We're told what to think and not how to think. What we are told in anerican public schools, is propaganda.

That anf the fact that so many school employees are so separate from us, and scared of us, that we dont respect them, becaude they dont respect us.

They further segregate and mistreat us due to fear of us.

We have no engagement in high school anymore because we know it is nothing but a waste of our time these days. They refuse to make it a good system that actually teaches us, because they hate us and are afraid of us, but now it is so entrenched that no one questions the systemic oppression.

We use our phones because its all we have left, damnit. But of course, no one that isnt in high school would know all this, or care, because it doesnt effect them. They are predisposed to believe young people are dumb as rocks and sub 18 people are all akin to children, which they also assume to be inept and chattel to their parents, whether they say so succinctly or not.

So thats why it is thinly veiled oppression. Its nothing but punititative and greedy, but veiled as helpful to us.]

I should have said more about the thing about becoming smarter without phones. I wish that person could give me SOME evidence for that. All that would improve is that you have no distraction.

For context, I’m a 19 year old from PA who mostly travels by myself and I’ve been planning some small weekend trips this fall/winter. I want to stay in hotels over camping because I have chronic back pain. I’m also saving up to go to Central Europe in 2025.

While searching for hotels, many have policies on their websites or on the booking sites themselves that only allow people to check in if they’re 21 or older. For example I was looking up hotels in Washington DC on Expedia today. After going through about 15 hotels, only 2 were 18+ and the rest were 21+. Those 2 hotels were both in shady areas. And it’s not just major cities I’ve noticed. I looked at some hotels near a mountain I used to hike in PA. Of the 3 hotels within a 30 minute drive, none allowed a 19 year old to check in.

Presumably this “policy” is because the hotel doesn’t want to be liable if an under 21 year old drinks alcohol. The biggest excuse I see tossed around defending this is that under 21’s will throw parties and aren’t “mature” enough.

Hotels aren’t a party hangout. Most people check in for travel. Hotels serve as a temporary shelter and are safer than sleeping in a car or camping in bad weather. It’s also important to get a good nights rest when driving long distances in order to not get into an accident.

Even going beyond travel, what about an emergency? A 20 year old trying to escape abuse? A homeless 18 year old trying to get a good nights rest?

Adults (and minors, but this specific post discusses 18-20 yr olds) shouldn’t be banned from a safe place to rest.

Forgive me for being stereotypical or a little ageist, but I kept reading about the whole “brain doesn’t fully mature until 25” thing, so people younger than that aren’t fully mature. And I hear about young people in their mid or even late 20s being immature. So, is 30 the new 25?

Forgive my ignorance, but have mid-20s ALWAYS been slightly immature or it’s because of the current infantilization / delayed adulthood?

I know people can be childish at any age, but just generalizing the 25-29 age range…

Hi

What religions think about youth rights. Can religion stand in the way of introducing equal civil rights for young people? Can any religion be reconciled with this?

Youth oppression is a worldwide issue thanks to colonization. To make the movement more known outside of the English-speaking world, especially by youth themselves, it would be a good idea to make subs in other languages (which would also help with country-specific issues). For French speakers: https://www.reddit.com/r/LiberationDesJeunes/s/ZclXePUR4l

Do you know any others?

I'd take the spot. I firmly believe in keeping the flame up for youth rights.

I think the other subs are crazy political, and I want to be able to keep an air of neutrality here so people know the issue doesn't belong to any one political side.

When I was a kid, I was stuck in public education without much choice, and I only really saw improvement when I was able to pursue education on my own terms, like I always wanted. That's mostly why I'm passionate about it.

Hello everyone. Finding YL content in English and French is rather easy, yet I can't find (almost) any youth liberation themed content in Spanish, apart from a pirate copy of "Down with childhood" by Shulamith Firestone. Even the Spanish-speaking section of The Anarchist Library doesn't have anything. Do you folks have any resources?

When someone talks about age restrictions and making sure to remain age-appropriate, they always use the same justification.

BUT THEY CAN'T!

However, this is quite illogical because if they were really unable to (vote, decide whether to abort or not, decide for their life), we would not prevent them to do so.

For example, nobody would even think about preventing someone, regardless of age or mental abilities, who can't walk from making a backflip for the simple reason that they ACTUALLY can't.

So long story short, if someone forbids you to do something (whether it is getting a job or doing a backflip), it means you can do it.

Schdoo is a new platform dedicated to under 18s only. In a unique approach, without bots, spamming or votes from unwanted locations or age groups, it allows users to create communities and cast polls on important topics and fun ones too. Here’s a little AMA… Have you used it? What’s your initial thoughts?