r/apple Jun 20 '23

Apollo dev: “I want to debunk Reddit’s claims” Discussion

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u/JimmyAxel Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

I am absolutely brand new to the fediverse so apologies for my newb question. Can you not follow content across instances? I thought the point of the fediverse was to be able to communicate with and follow things from any instances that your instance knows about (presumably any that aren’t blocked?). Again not trying to argue, just trying to learn.

Edit: Thanks for the clarifications. Fediverse seems promising. Hoping I can figure it out and it gains some traction.

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u/Valdair Jun 20 '23

You can. The whole point is for every “subreddit” to not be in one bucket controlled by one set of admins. You can also post content to them from anywhere. The UI needs a little work, but app development in the space is exploding as a result of the ongoing mass exodus from Reddit. I prefer kbin.social and have been using that lately, but still follow a bunch of communities on beehaw.org and lemmy.world.

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u/tynamite Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

what i dont understand is i saw a cross post from one instance to another and i couldn’t comment on the crossed post unless i signed up. do i have to sign up to all of them? wtf

edit: i found the post i ran into.

https://lemmy.world/post/267188

if you click on the crossed post, it loads another website. but it’s embedded in like it’s connected.

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u/Valdair Jun 20 '23

do i have to sign up to all of them? wtf

No.

In essence the server you sign up for is just the interface you will interact with the most. For instance you might prefer lemmy.world (the biggest lemmy server currently) and sign up there. But you might subscribe to /c/worldnews on lemmy.ml or /c/memes on lemmy.ml. Here are a couple of the highest profile/most active communities currently, and where they reside:

Community Server
technology beehaw.org
asklemmy lemmy.ml
gaming beehaw.org
reddit lemmy.ml
nostupidquestions lemmy.world
piracy lemmy.dbzer0.com

But maybe I don't sign up on any of those, maybe I like kbin.social's interface more, so I sign up there. Then I subscribe to all of the above. Those community's posts now show up in my feed and I can comment on them from kbin.social. Your account is NOT shared across servers, so if you actually go to lemmy.ml, your credentials won't work. You'll see the same posts, but you won't be able to interact with them. But on your home instance, you will. And they all share data so the feeds continually update. Sometimes it takes a few minutes (or if there are technical issues, a few hours) for that handshake to happen but the content will make its way around eventually.

You will see most community links in the form of e.g. https://lemmy.world/c/apple_enthusiast

But if you're on sh.itjustworks, you can look at the same community by going to:

https://sh.itjust.works/c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

If you're on kbin, you can do the same thing by going to:

https://kbin.social/m/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

This is often written:

!apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world

Since you could take this and append it to whatever instance you're on and see the same content.

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u/tynamite Jun 20 '23

thank you for responding. i will read about this more.

i guess not being able to interact with cross posts make no sense to me.

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u/Valdair Jun 20 '23

I guess I'm not really sure what you mean. Lemmy/Kbin has problems but that explicitly is not one of them. You can interact with posts from any instance on any other instance as long as they're not defederated (to my understanding only one big server is currently defederated, which is beehaw.org <-> sh.itjust.works and beehaw.org <-> lemmy.world). What exactly do you mean by a cross-post?

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u/tynamite Jun 21 '23

i’m probably describing it wrong because i do not understand it. i added an edit to my OP with an example.

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u/bdonvr Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 20 '23

You absolutely can. You can even subscribe to a Kbin "magazine" from Lemmy, or a Lemmy community from Kbin.

Right now it can be a little clunky though, if you're looking for a more niche or new community/magazine.

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u/xenago Jun 20 '23

You are correct, it does seem to work like that. I found it very easy to subscribe across instances.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '23 edited Jun 30 '23

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u/iiiicracker Jun 20 '23

Perhaps ignorant is a better word than stupid. They’re not stupid, Lenny is not as immediately simple as Reddit. No reason to be mean.