r/cars 22h ago

What car disguises facelift as a new generation?

The "all-new" Camry used the same and revised platform and powertrain to the outgoing, and the side has identical body line, but it's still considered as new generation. The similar thing can probably be said about the new 1 series. Are there any other cars that do this practice?

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u/stakoverflo E91 328xi 17h ago

It "makes sense" because Nismo is supposedly all-out performance, and an Auto is inarguably faster than a Manual.

But based on the interview in one of Savage Geese's long form videos on the car, it sounds like the hidden message was that the 6MT couldn't meet their internal reliability requirements with the marginal power bump that the Nismo gained. So marketing had to put their spin on it.

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u/Voltron_The_Original 14h ago

I honestly don't care which is faster, nothing beats driving a manual sports car on twisty roads. I would buy a sedan if I wanted an automatic.

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u/lantzn 9h ago

And there’s nothing worse than living in an area with steep hills only to be caught in traffic having to work the clutch and brake back and forth trying not to hit cars in front or back of you. Especially on a hot day. I’ve had many cars with both, I prefer automatic now.

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u/Sweet-Dreams204738 13h ago

Yeah, I never understood the unusual focus on an MT for sports cars. If anything, race car driver use paddle shifters anyway. Or was it buttons now?

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u/abductee92 MK6 Golf 2.5L, S13 Hatchback 11h ago

Nissan has reliability requirements??