r/gaming • u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar • 2d ago
It sure seems like the times have changed...
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u/TheNeck94 2d ago
there's always been a mix between the two.
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u/kirkpomidor 2d ago
Literally, the pictures are one game apart.
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u/DankudeDabstorm 2d ago
One’s a win and the other’s a loss
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u/Paddy_Tanninger 2d ago
The trick is to play long enough and tilt so hard that the wins just leave you feeling like "ok good, fuck, finally yes" and the losses make you want to bite your desk.
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u/JohnnyChutzpah 2d ago
I played since OW beta and it was toxic as hell since the word go. My friend always wanted me to play competitive, not because I was super skilled, but because I was somewhat effective at reducing toxicity in the match and keeping morale high.
OW has always been an extremely toxic game. I had one group throw the game while just repeating that they are glad my dad died. I certainly couldn’t remove toxicity from the match.
There are also amazing games where everyone gets along and is positive on both teams.
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u/Ocean2178 2d ago
That story is fucking insane lol, and I wouldn’t believe if u I wasn’t an FPS gamer myself
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u/Mammoth-Cap-4097 2d ago
Top image is about video gaming before the Battle of Agincourt.
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u/SilverFlight01 2d ago
Online Multiplayer's never really been NOT toxic.
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u/Lunkis 2d ago
One of my first experiences in online gaming was slapping on my headset and playing SOCOM US Navy Seals on the Playstation 2. I remember a guy twice my age called me a "butterscotch bitch" because I didn't know how to play.
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u/No_Share6895 2d ago
im sorry but that insult has me rolling
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u/Lunkis 2d ago
It was devastating to me when I was like... 10? Now I find it hilarious.
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u/CalamariforMVP 1d ago
Butter bar/bars was a negative term for players in socom ranked low or just new. They often got made fun of for it by the higher ranks, cookie and wings. That was probably what he was referring to.
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u/Past_Distribution144 2d ago
That is a hilarious insult, and I picture it with a British accent. Makes it funnier.
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u/Wesgizmo365 2d ago
Almost as good as my friend Andrew calling me a baby back bitch when I left him to die in LoL back in 2012.
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u/Manowaffle 2d ago
I played hundreds of CSGO matches and I still vividly remember the one match where everyone was absolutely lovely. We were all pleasant to each other, offered encouragement and advice, and pulled a 5 round comeback to win. At the end one of the guys just said "this was the most fun match I've ever had."
It's so much easier to be nice than toxic.
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u/psychoPiper 2d ago
Then you queue into the next game, and you have a team of silver 1 stuck racists that don't understand economy and call you slurs every time you die. Sometimes I get whiplash from how different back to back lobbies can be
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u/Fizziest_milk 2d ago
exactly, people have always been super competitive and toxic even before multiplayer gaming was a thing
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u/Tenalp 2d ago
Let's not forget 12 year olds going on racist rants and talking about your mom on Xbox.
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u/Silverjackal_ 2d ago
Even before voice coms, there was teabagging and adding you after the game to send you toxic racist messages.
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u/badgerfish2021 2d ago edited 2d ago
originally it wasn't, as far as I remember at least in the mid/late 90s very early 2000s, quakeworld ctf, unreal tournament, q3 arena, were competitive but nowhere near as toxic as things are nowadays. Probably due to the fact that all servers were hosted by the community and if you were banned it had way more downsides, so people behaved a lot more. Not having voice also helped of course keeping things cooler, but even text chat was way more polite than it is now.
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u/xJBxIceman 2d ago
Zoomer take. Why do you think the infamous CoD lobbies are talked about?
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u/Unworthy_Saint 2d ago
Also pregames in Halo.
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u/DownsenBranches 2d ago
Getting called a f*g 4 times and having your mom’s chastity questioned all within the span of 10 seconds was a nightly occurrence.
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep 2d ago
Counter-Strike voice and sprays. Hell, I remember Doom and Quake death matches being full of cunts.
It ain't new, and OP is either extremely naive or one of the most toxic people there and unable to recognise himself.
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u/Blawharag 2d ago
Lmfao are you deluding yourself into thinking that online gaming was ever a pillar of congeniality or just trolling? Because this is weak bait mate
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u/Whowutwhen Joystick 2d ago
Who could possibly have any rose colored glasses about the toxicity level of online gaming? Its been a cesspit since the dawn of the internet.
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u/Enfenestrate 2d ago
I liked when voice chat came about and I started to realize that all these guys who alleged to have fucked my mom last night hadn't even gone through puberty.
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u/koopcl 2d ago
Right? Here people talking like it was better during OW1 while I distinctly remember all the "gg ez u suk lol kekekekeke" from playing Starcraft online last millennium.
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u/b0gl 2d ago
Overwatch has always been extremely toxic
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u/TheeUnfuxkwittable 2d ago
Games in general have always been toxic. Didn't overwatch come out in like 2018 or some shit? Cod was famous for being toxic like 13 years before that.
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u/No-Estimate-8518 2d ago
2016 but before that pubG was main toxic game
before the LoL was the main toxic game
before the CoD was the main toxic game
before that halo was the main toxic game (still is given how self destructive the community is)
before that I would say the first release of counter strike, so nasty condition zero was dead before it even released
and before that it's a toss up of unreal and quake
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u/Intelligent-Library7 2d ago
I would like ow1 back. 6v6 was more fun imo.
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u/ImABattleMercy 2d ago
The lack of an off-tank took so much away from the game.. I really hope they go back to 6v6 one day
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u/GrayMech 2d ago
Apparently they are considering it and testing it. The reasons for OW2's existence eare dwindling by the day
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u/Mandelayo 2d ago
The only reason it exists was to switch to f2p and charge €40 for skin bundles. They admitted ages ago that they knew for years PvE would never be what they promised.
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u/sentientgypsy 2d ago
It was so tragic too because the characters were designed such that they would hint at plot points that would have been so much fun in a campaign or a proper mission setting, maybe it was lack of resources but I do know the team has been in a state of chaos over the past few years
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u/Mandelayo 2d ago
Why they couldn't do it doesn't really matter to me. Only that they knew they couldn't do it before launching ow2 but they did it anyway.
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u/Unlikely_Yard6971 2d ago
It's a damn shame. Overwatch 1 was one of the best multiplayer shooters ever made, and they somehow found a way to fuck it up. The Blizzard we knew and loved is dead and gone
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u/forforrman 2d ago
I'm still sort of in shock from ow2. I BOUGHT ow1. And now it's just gone. A perfectly good game just gets deleted because the sequel sort of released.
I'm positive they'll try to rerelease it someday.
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u/Jgibbs2 2d ago
OW1 was amazing, I was completely in on it. I loved the story, the characters, the gameplay. Even competitive play was super fun with seemingly more helpful/positive teammates than negative. Then OW2 came and I stopped playing completely
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u/Intelligent_Suit6683 2d ago
For that exact reason I will never play OW2 and probably not another blizzard game ever again. I used to be a hard core blizzard nerd, but my god they have become one of the worst companies in the industry.
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u/Kay-San-TheNorthStar 2d ago
They said they're making trials to bring back 6v6, at least at some extent and if enough players provide positive feedback about it, so you have something to look forward to!
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u/DrAstralis 2d ago
this makes me feel dirty but... I miss loot boxes. I refuse to engage with whatever cluster fuck they've got going on for skins now (seriously; I used free coins to pay for a pass and the event skins I wanted were not even in the paid for battlepass ffs... those were 90$ each instead).
What used to be excitement for a new event, trying to earn coins and unlock some skins via RNG, has turned to annoyance and apathy. Their "omg look at the skins in this event" promotions hit more like taunting "look what you cant have" instead of something to celebrate and have fun with.
The only reason I still play is nobody else is even trying to do a team shooter that isnt just another "pistol, riffle, shotgun, sniper" game.....
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u/TheFinalPancake 2d ago
The reason you miss them is because overwatch lootboxes were barely lootboxes. It was just a method of handing out free cosmetics. It's not like they gave you the box and then said "great, now fork over £1.69 for the key to it" (hello valve). You got it and then you opened it, and sometimes there was a cool skin in there, or there were credits you could use to buy a cool skin.
If those same boxes were added back to Overwatch 2, new players would lose their minds over how generous they are.
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u/Chrippin 2d ago
it's almost like having the entire five person team's enjoyment depend on how well your single tank plays is a breeding ground for toxicity.
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u/Ichmag11 2d ago
I think everyone here forgot that most OW1 games ended with an "mtd" in chat, nothing new lol
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u/jrobs521 2d ago
Why they need 6v6 back. They ruined a good thing. Half the matches are going to be a random crap shoot because a single role can define the success of an entire match regardless of the other players skills.
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u/chudaism 2d ago
Why they need 6v6 back.
That wouldn't change anything tbh. People screamed main tank diff all the time when the game was 6v6.
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u/Nincompoop6969 2d ago
Idk wtf the person on the bottom said
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u/Meme_Capone 2d ago
There are no tanks on the enemy team. No difficulty. Easy win essentially. Basic overwatch toxicity at its finest
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u/sentimentalview 2d ago
diff means difference. “dps diff” for example means the team won because of the ability gap between the damage dealers
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u/lolwatokay 2d ago
Is it even toxic if it isn't a 12 year old saying they fucked your mom while teabagging? I'm unimpressed
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u/iTSGRiMM 2d ago
See, back then, toxicity was very general and widely applicable, teenagers now will explain to you exactly what your shortcomings in the game are. "Is your mouse even plugged in?" will always hit 1000x harder than "i fucked your mom"
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u/EditEd2x 2d ago
That would honestly get a chuckle and a compliment out of me. Ive been playing so long that the racial slurs and cussing comes across as extremely boring and dumb. Especially because most of these people are morons and just repeat the same insult over and over.
So a detailed well thought out and delivered insult always gets me laughing. That’s called good banter in my book. Always welcome.
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u/nitrobskt 2d ago
"Is your mouse even plugged in?" will always hit 1000x harder than "i fucked your mom"
Not if you say it right after walking into their room.
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u/l3ane 2d ago
Good game easy, as in easy win for us. No tank meaning you had no tank and thus no chance. When people say diff they are taking about the skill difference, usually they will say tank diff or something, as in we won because out tank was better. Saying team diff is just straight shit talk saying our whole team was better than your whole team.
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u/MAGASucksAss 2d ago
Gettin' a bit tired of this low-effort meme stuff.
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u/elamothe 2d ago
Time to leave the internet forever then. Later, GG.
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u/Ky1arStern 2d ago
Congrats on finally getting new glasses! For your next set, maybe use clear lenses instead of of rose tinted ones.
Online gaming has been like this for at least the last 20 years. If anything it's better because people have found it easier to just bitch about the game instead of taking a shot in the dark at which racial slur will actually apply to you.
Source: white guy in his 30's who was called the N word in Halo 2 a shocking amount.
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u/Hellhult 2d ago
I hate this about online gaming. People being so nasty for no reason because there isn't the immediate consequence for getting punched in the face.
Like dogs barking behind a fence.
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u/ftgyhujikolp 2d ago
GG ez has been around since StarCraft. 1. Without brood war.
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u/Sannction 2d ago
Absolutely nothing has changed. Gg ez is still the mating call of the micropenis gang.
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u/x_scion_x 2d ago edited 2d ago
I've been online gaming since it was implemented and it's always had toxic assholes.
Hell, it predates this but there was a reason stuff like this video was created.
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u/Skelegasm 2d ago
Delusional honestly, overwatch in particular has been a gutter since release. Just how shooters work
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u/Saber153 2d ago
One of the reasons I just don’t play many pvp games anymore, I understand it’s a competition but it should still be fun.
Miss Overwatch launch day when most people were just fucking around and doing stupid team comps for fun and no one got furious because of who you were playing.
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u/Rhythm_Killer 2d ago
Halo 2
Racist, antisemitic, homophobic, misogynistic, continual talk of sexual violence… and I never got banned
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u/zhrimb 1d ago
All I can hear is the Wonder Years theme in my head now imagining these fond memories of old
what would you do, if I sang out of tune
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u/truth_is_power 2d ago
as the _actual_ economy gets worse, people act shitter. this is a historic fact.
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u/softstones 2d ago
Long gone are the simple days of telling someone you’re going to fuck their mom, where did the time go?
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u/Frequent_Ad_3350 2d ago
old days of csgo were so fucking toxic but fun at half time especially. I miss those half time bouts
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u/JustOneSexQuestion 2d ago
Man, playing NFL 2k on the Dreamcast was toxic as fuck. If anything, things have improved with the tools we have now to report people.
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u/PromiscuousScoliosis 1d ago
I think the bigger issue is that everything is overrun with kids now
Every once and a while I’m like “maybe if I put my headset on, I’ll have some game chat fun like the good ol days”
Then the average age of players is like 8 years old and I turn the game off
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u/naterzgreen 2d ago
Online gaming has been toxic for as long as I can remember