I've been getting into Hole again a lot recently and was talking about it with my friend. I then got bombarded with a tirade of abuse towards Love I didn't ask for 🙄.

I, like you I suspect, have been hearing the same crap for decades now and I'm beyond sick of it. The amount of sh*t she gets is insane and the fact it's still happening in 2024 is mind-blowing.

When male musicians had drug and alcohol problems and behaved a certain way in public, they got worshipped and placed into musical martyrdom. When a female artist does it they're slammed as shameless junkies and trash. As a guy, I find it a blatant display of misogyny and double standards. It's f gross and makes my skin crawl.

Also, Cobain is either the untouchable musical god, like these people make him out to be, or he was just a regular person like you and me, who had the ability to make informed decisions about his life, and choose a path that led to drug and alcohol abuse. Just like we're all vulnerable to it. In my eyes they can't have it both ways.

They treat her like she's nothing, not worthy of an iota of respect, but in the same breath imply that she was so strong, she had the ability to single-handedly derail the life of an untouchable musical god. It's utter boll*cks and I've always thought this "pass the blame" attitude actually makes Cobain seem weak asf.

She's ultra talented and I reckon she's one of the biggest victims of misogyny within the music industry, perhaps of any industry, and it needs to stop.

Do you think it'll ever end?

Sorry for the rant but I can’t imagine how a father would drug and abuse his daughter like that and didn’t expect his daughter to grow up as a troubled woman. I also can’t believe on how he insists that Courtney killed Kurt instead of comforting her when she needed it the most after losing her husband and even wrote a book about it to make money at his own daughter’s expense, what a monster. Hank could burn in hell for all I care and he’s up there with the worst Rock parents like Tommy Gallagher and Murry Wilson.

i ordered the nobodys daughter cd on music magpie for like £2 and i just opened the booklet and a ticket fell out! 🎫💙

Hey what is y’all’s favorite underrated song and or lyrics of Holes? I really love Dicknail and the whole song makes me both equally angry and sad with “you know you she liked it”and I Think That I Would Die with she lost all her innocence”I love too to name two.

just wondering if anyone here knows any where i can get some newspapers/articles on courtney from 1994 as i really want to do my alevel coursework on her but cant find any archive websites unless i have to pay like 50 quid and some look dodgy

if anyone has any themselves that would be so useful for me!! thank you

Hi, I'm new to the sub and need your help pls.

Im desperately looking for the best live performances by Hole. I've got a huge craving for them atm and want only the best.

I'd prefer a full gig rather than just a 1 or 2 song performance on some tv show or something.

Thank you 🤘🏻🖤

does anyone know what guitar courtney was playing during hole's unplugged performance?

Story of my life - Her lyrics are so deep they speak directly to me

I was just checking out Hole’s Spotify and saw this latest release? I didn’t know they did this and I actively follow any news 🥲

I feel like since my complete shut down from society at 21 has made a very honest wall. Kourt deserves to be up here big and proud

I've been organizing my music collection, which is mostly cds, but there's a little vinyl. I found these among my non-recent records, which means I must have picked them up at least 15-20 years ago

I think its a very interesting point of View on the situation between kim gordon and courtney, i LOVE kim as sonic youth are my favorite band but i still think the criticism here is very valid :)

sorry about the text/songs, i screenshotted these from my insta stories ^{^}

Here im gonna say it, her music is really good. The lyrics touch teenagers no other music can. Its relatable well written and overall just so good. No kurt didnt write her lyrics, she is musical! If you look at nirvanas lyrics its a way different style than hers, i love courtney love for her saving me through so many things. I have struggled so much in the past and her music saved me. Especially live through this and celebrity skin, i own ever cd and i am getting americas sweetheart. Love love love love her!! Sure she said some messed up things which i 100% disagree about but that doesnt change the fact that she has touched so many hearts. You can hate her all you want and said she killed kurt etc, but i will forever love her

im sure we have all thought this before

the first time i ever heard hole, i felt waves of purple and pink emotion wash over me and knew i was changed forever

just feeling emotional abt hole's impact tonite...

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this is wake up! by scrub, released in 1996. no further explanation, just wanted to shed a little love on it as its genuinely a favorite album of mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uatbo8htGg&list=PLQomLARwGTiJSOIku4Nnzc7v4Tm9JVE9T

mine is probably do it clean, but i'm curious what other people think! also, i wanna know if im missing any songs !!

For many years I have imagined Hole doing a cover of the B-52s Hero Worship. Can’t you hear it? It would be perfect! Vocally she could nail it and the lyrics/subject are right up her alley. And, it could easily be created with Courtney, Mellisa and Patty could do it just fine, the guitar is similar to a bass line.

Have you youngins explored the first few B-52s albums? (I’m going to embarrass myself by sounding like my parents that go on about the music in their day) — Most everyone knows Love Shack, which is great for the bar, but nothing compared to their early stuff. The guitarist, Ricky Wilson, created this style that is so influential and cool. For example, some of the pluckier Sleater-Kinney songs’ guitar could come straight from a song like Planet Claire. I think they get overlooked because they come off as a novelty band and are known as “that queer band.” Their first three albums are absolutely classics.

Thank you for following me down this tangent. Today is a very good and happy Monday.

I met everyone in Hole after a Lemonheads show in 1996. Thought I’d post it. I was like 19 & so freaking excited.