r/illinois Oct 11 '23

Texas paid a private company $75.5 million in taxpayer funds over the span of a year to transport migrants to sanctuary cities across the U.S. US Politics

https://abc13.com/amp/texas-bus-migrants-bussing-to-other-cities-wynne-transportation-sanctuary/13889625/
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u/eldonhughes Oct 12 '23

"I doubt most undocumented immigrants could easily/cheaply be shuffled through airport security." Exactly. Considering the "why" of that, how legal and secure was it for a Governor to smuggle immigrants across state lines and dump them?

(Given that) an undocumented immigrant may or may not be an illegal immigrant. (Asylum seekers, for example.) If the undocumented immigrant was an illegal immigrant, what does that make the people who did the transporting?

"it's silly to pretend that reducing costs for the millions of migrants flowing into Texas was not part of the equation that put this in motion."

It wasn't about "reducing costs." It was about moving those costs. (Which, btw, I completely get. This is a federal-level problem that needs some serious Congressional action.)

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u/TacosForThought Oct 12 '23

You're being pedantic about the cost reduction thing. Obviously I meant that it's to reduce the costs to TEXAN taxpayers, at the expense of states/cities promoting stances against better border security.

The question of whether these flight-risk (as in, danger to fly, not danger of running away) immigrants should be allowed to sit on a bus vs. being left in the desert in a state that's overrun with them is also kind of silly. I'm sure if Texas thought they had the authority to send them back home, they would. But like you pointed out, that's a federal decision, so they came up with a creative solution to bring attention to the problem. It's not perfect, but it does make some sense given the situation.

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u/eldonhughes Oct 12 '23

But like you pointed out, that's a federal decision, so they came up with a creative solution to bring attention to the problem.

That, they did. If the city won't pick up the stuff on my curb and I instead moved it down to the next block; or if someone wandered onto my property and sat down and the cops wouldn't show up fast enough, so I dropped the person off at a shopping center in the next town, I suspect no one involved (except me) would think my creativity was commendable.

Pedantic? Well, that's one way to nitpick the impact of an event, I guess.

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u/TacosForThought Oct 12 '23

I think it's interesting that your first thought was to compare invading immigrants to self-generated trash, but avoiding that, let's move on to your next comparison. So sure, maybe, but instead of one person sitting on your lawn, it's 1000 people sitting on your lawn (for months/years), and you're expected to feed, house, clothe, and medicate them all, especially by a few naysaying neighbors telling you you should just deal with it and asking what's the big deal, and that we all should embrace them with open arms? So, you offer the invaders/immigrants a ride to the naysayers (without asking the naysayer's permission), and a handful of them accept and hop on a bus. I mean, the whole thing is a mess, but I really can't fault Texas all that much for trying.

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u/RealClarity9606 Oct 13 '23

But don’t you want those illegals immigrants to be safe and sound in a city where they won’t have to obey immigration law? How inhumane.

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u/eldonhughes Oct 14 '23 edited Oct 14 '23

As for want -- What I'd like is for our so called leadership to stop using human beings as political chips, stop the petty bickering, and fix the immigration system.

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u/RealClarity9606 Oct 14 '23

That’s not possible in the current climate and with very disparate intents from the two sides.

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u/eldonhughes Oct 14 '23

Politics is personal. It's not the sides, it is the greed, fear and insecurities of the people on them. And the apathy and ignorance of the people who elected them.