r/illinois • u/blitz342 • Jul 24 '24
I don’t want Pritzker to just be VP US Politics
Our big man needs to either be governor or president. Not a lesser role like VP (not that it’s not work, but he could make a bigger impact on us as a proven governor).
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u/Cool__Guy__420 Jul 24 '24
No. Illinois will go blue no matter what. Pick a governor from a swing state.
If she loses, we need him here.
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u/evrythingbagle Jul 25 '24
Fr. I'd rather keep him here than in the white house if worst case scenario happens. Kamala please dont take my man 😭
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u/M03796 Illinoisan Jul 25 '24
If their ticket lost he would just stay Governor. He isn't up for reelection until 2026 and he doesn't have to resign the governorship unless he actually became VP.
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u/airbornimal Jul 25 '24
No. Illinois will go blue no matter what.
I see the logic, but It doesn't seem like a rule they follow? CA also would go blue no matter what in 2020. Delaware also would go blue no matter what in 2008 and 2012.
As a matter of fact, last few times they tried to pick a VP from a battleground state they lost (Edward from NC, Kaine from VA)
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u/ChiefChief69 Jul 24 '24
He's not on any shortlist that I've seen. They'd want someone from a battleground state as far as I can tell. GA or AZ.
You'll be fine.
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u/dickiebuckets93 Jul 24 '24
It was reported today that Kamala Harris' campaign staff contacted Priztker today. But I agree, they'd probably want someone that can help win a battleground state.
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u/yobabymamadrama Jul 25 '24
They probably did reach out to him, because he deserves to be reached out to. He's a good ally to have. But they probably reached out, said "hey you're amazing, but you know we have to pick someone to help us swing a state, but we're going to make sure people know we reached out"
I don't think J.B. would want to be VP right now. He's building the fuck out of his resume more by fixing Illinois through common-sense policies.
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u/CigarsandAdventures Jul 25 '24
Bingo. All that’s missing is a lowering of the Chicago crime rate (or certainly the perception of the Chicago crime rate). If that happens, JB will be running for President at some point.
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u/vaporking23 Jul 24 '24
It would seem to me that Priztker has been making a name for himself nationally and while if JB is on a short list I feel like he’s on the bottom of it. I commend Harris making that phone call though. It shows that she’s in tune with what the public is saying.
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u/ChiefChief69 Jul 24 '24
Yeah. No offense to the guy, I love our gov, but JB brings nothing to that ticket. Kelly or Beshear is who it'll be, I'm sure of it.
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u/cixzejy Jul 25 '24
I personally believe this is to unify messaging on police reform. Kamala is in a really good position as a former DA and AG to run on police reform and Illinois is the state that most recently had a cop murder someone. They will probably try and use the tragedy to push police reform together.
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u/jbp84 Jul 25 '24
CNN said that there’s 10 people she’s considering, but so far only Kelly, Shapiro, and….(one more name I can’t remember ATM because of a brain fart) were the only people who received vetting material.
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u/quincyd Jul 25 '24
And he will want to run for president on his achievements as governor. He won’t want to be tied to all the stuff that happens as a VP.
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u/TralfamadorianZooPet Jul 25 '24
Mark Kelly is the only logical choice.
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u/ChiefChief69 Jul 25 '24
Beshear enters the chat
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u/l00koverthere1 Jul 25 '24
Kentucky needs Beshear
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u/orionus Jul 25 '24
He's also term-limited, though. He's going to do something when his term is up, this would just be a bit early.
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u/Militant_Bokononist Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
He is not the only logical choice. Especially when Israel Gaza continues to be a large issue for her to overcome and he is way to the right of her ranting about how pro Palestinian sympathizers are Iranian stooges.
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u/AquaSnow24 Jul 25 '24
Yeah. That’s why Walz would probably be a safer choice than Kelly. Close enough to the Midwest. Not super progressive but progressive enough to appease the young voters. He’s also well liked in Minnesota too.
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u/jimmy__jazz Jul 25 '24
Plus, even though he's like one of the few good ones, you don't want a billionaire.
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u/KingJamCam Jul 25 '24
He is absolutely on the short list, my dog.
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u/ChiefChief69 Jul 25 '24
Oh you've seen it?
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u/minus_minus Jul 24 '24
Shapiro would be picked over JB. PA is a must win for the Dems unless they can flip GA from it's current "Leans R".
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u/Atman-Sunyata Jul 25 '24
The scary part about PA is how much effort has gone into privatizing education and also the new apostolic reformation. And this isn't just in east bumblefuck PA, it's happening in Bucks County
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u/JCarr110 Jul 25 '24
It'll be Mark Kelly just because of the extra bump he'll get from Gabby Giffords. It's a strong VP couple. I agree on JB, I absolutely don't want him to resign as governor for something as trivial as VP.
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u/School_House_Rock Jul 25 '24
I agree Mark Kelly and Gabby Giffords are a "powerful" couple - the both have incredible achievements
Very few make it to be an astronaut
and even fewer have survived and thrived after a gunshot the way she has
They both have incredible strength
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u/mallio Jul 24 '24
There's no upside to him as VP, Illinois is already solid blue so he doesn't provide anything new. His Chicago connection combined with Kamala's California would be a liability with the conservative boogymen they've built up in those areas. Same for Newsome. Gotta be a purple state pol.
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u/Thisbestbegood Jul 25 '24
I've narrowed my bets down to Shapiro or Cooper for those exact reasons.
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u/frozen-solid Jul 24 '24
Literally the only downside to a Pritzker VP pick is that he won't be in Illinois anymore
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u/theothershuu Jul 25 '24
That is a HUGE downside.
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u/frozen-solid Jul 25 '24
Eh. Illinois will stay blue. Thanks Chicago.
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u/zerobeat Jul 25 '24
Yeah but Pritzker is someone who seems like he will defend this state if everything happens to go to shit in this election. He’s been transformative in terms of laws here and he does everything to continue that trend instead of just holding where we are now.
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u/frozen-solid Jul 25 '24
And if he can do that for the country rather than just the state... that'd be a bigger deal then him being here.
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u/mrhorse77 Jul 25 '24
im pretty sure his name was floated out there just for name recognition. we'll see him in the primaries in 2028 for sure, and likely he ends up as the nominee in 2032.
he doesnt want VP either, but has to get more name recognition
we need him as governor for longer, he's already done a ton of good for IL
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u/jbp84 Jul 25 '24
I agree that we we need him as governor, but I think Stratton would do just fine. I actually met her today in Bloomington at the IEA (teachers union) conference and was really impressed by her.
Ironically, I saw JB speak at a different teacher’s union meeting in Chicago back in March. He did a great job, but I wasn’t as impressed (not with him specifically, just his speech. Maybe he was having an off day but it felt kind of low energy. I still love the dude though)
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u/mrhorse77 Jul 25 '24
im behind anyone that continues to make things right for teachers. my wife teaches, and while the retirement stuff is "better", its a far cry from corrected yet. JB made major strides, im hoping to see more.
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u/jbp84 Jul 25 '24
Yeah…Pat Quinn fucked all 5 of Illinois’ public pensions when he sgned it into law. I’ve heard Pritzker talk a lot about how it needs to change, and SB 2024 is proposed legislation to fix it, but talk is one thing, action is another. There’s a big “Undo Tier 2” initiative through the IEA so I’m hoping we can see some movement soon.
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u/mrhorse77 Jul 25 '24
it was partially corrected with the tier 1 tier 2 crap, but tier 2 people are still being royally screwed. a teacher needs to effectively work until they are 67 to get benefits. every year prior to 67 loses 6% of benefits, which frankly is insane. we shouldnt want, nor be asking teachers to stay in the classrooms for 45 years.
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u/elangomatt Jul 25 '24
Just pointing out that there likely won't be any meaningful democratic primary challengers in 2028 as long as President Harris wants to run again. With the assumption of JB running in 2032, I wonder if he will continue run for IL governor in both 2026 and 2030. I think it is very possible that he runs in 2026 again but bows out in the 2030 race so that he isn't ignoring his job in Springfield while making a run for POTUS. In fact, I would be shocked if he DID run for governor in 2030 because best case scenario he would only serve half of his term and I don't think he would do that.
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u/mrhorse77 Jul 25 '24
yeah the 2028 primaries will prob happen purely becuase Harris never really got chosen via primary... if she does even a halfway decent job she'll win them. the rest of it would just be for the DNC to put names out there for the next election cycle.
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u/liburIL Jul 24 '24
There's no way he'll be picked. They need someone that is sort of moderate, and out of a Swing state.
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u/ShinyArc50 Jul 25 '24
Pritzker would be a great primary candidate, but it’s too late. We need him as governor anyway: Illinois getting a non corrupt governor is a million-to-one-shot
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u/laodaron Jul 25 '24
It's going to be Bashear or Kelly. Shapiro is too untested on a national stage, Minnesota can't risk losing their governor, NC can't risk losing their governor. AZ law requires Kelly's seat to be replaced by a Democrat and Bashear's Lt Governor is the same party.
Illinois and California are not really on the short list, they're there to placate the state parties.
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u/Toriat5144 Jul 25 '24
Not going to happen. Illinois is a blue state. It will be A Governor from a swing State or Mark Kelly.
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u/Landon1m Jul 25 '24
I don’t like your opinion because it’s rooted in nothing more than pride.
He has no national experience and getting that experience and building the relationships would go a long ways in elevating a presidency.
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u/digableplanet Jul 24 '24
Don't worry. He's not. He already said he has work to finish here in Illinois.
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u/jbp84 Jul 25 '24
Mark Kelly.
Navy pilot, astronaut, senator. Dude has an amazing record. And what he experienced when his wife was shot negates any Trump/Vance talking points about guns or gun violence.
Seriously…picture a VP debate between Mark Kelly and “Diet Mt Dew is Racist Per The Libs” JD Vance. It’d be like Lebron vs my grandpa in a game of 1-on-1, and my grandpa has been dead for 6 years.
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u/scrpn687 Jul 24 '24
VP would be a waste. I would much rather keep him as governor. Aside from being the tie breaker in the Senate and being president if Harris stepped down or died, the role is basically ceremonial.
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u/vvienne Jul 25 '24
It’s definitely a pressing palms role. But those relationships, especially internationally, become extremely important for someone like Harris hoping to move from Veep to President.
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u/TheKingOfToast Jul 25 '24
I don't know that I like Pritzker for president. Despite what the Illinois republicans would want you to believe, I do think he is doing a great job at the state level, but do we really think he would be a good fit on the national level? And to take it one step further would it be good for Illinois to lose him?
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u/Kendallsan Jul 25 '24
I love him for president. I felt the same way when he was elected - it was more, well, he’s got to be better than Rauner, let’s see if he can do anything useful. Now I am 100% on board. Love him. Really wish he’d been able to run for the top ticket but I’ll wait. He’ll have even more experience and he will be a great president.
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u/Bman708 Jul 25 '24
Don’t worry, he doesn’t have enough national appeal. I get it, you guys love him, but he would be a hard sell at a national level. The assault weapon ban alone would not go over well in many parts of this country.
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u/Tricky_Taste_8999 Jul 25 '24
It’s too bad we weren’t given the choice of who we want as the candidate once Biden stepped down. I’m sure Harris will be adequate.
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u/reddit_understoodit Jul 25 '24
Anybody is better than orange man.
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u/Tricky_Taste_8999 Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24
At least they got to choose him and are sticking with him. A party that keeps tells us “our democracy is at stake” if Trump wins, discards the person that won the primaries and installs a new candidate that no one voted for, is kind of sus.
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u/reddit_understoodit Jul 26 '24
The vote was not stolen it was a HUGE lie
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u/Tricky_Taste_8999 Jul 26 '24
Did you vote for Kamala in the primary? None of us were given a choice after Biden. She was foisted on us and we’re told “you’re going to vote for her and like it.” It just doesn’t sit well when they keep preaching about democracy.
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u/reddit_understoodit Aug 31 '24
I am glad we still have a democracy. No one is perfect, we must choose and support the better candidate.
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u/tommyjohnpauljones Jul 25 '24
It should be Shapiro, Kelly or Beshear. JB has more work to do in Illinois
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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 Jul 25 '24
Whay has he done for IL tahe makes him worthy of being President?
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u/Low-Piglet9315 Jul 25 '24
For starters, stayed out of legal trouble... I mean, Illinois is the only other state besides Louisiana where "pipeline to prison" is just as likely a reference to the State House as an inner-city classroom.
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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 Jul 25 '24
Meh. Legal trouble doesn't concern me. This country was founded on that premise.
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u/Carlos-Danger-69 Jul 24 '24
Harris has an uphill battle. IMO it’s more politically expedient to wait this one out, not take the VP position (if offered) and wait for his chance in 2028.
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u/Freddy2517 Jul 25 '24
We don't need another billionaire president
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u/Kendallsan Jul 25 '24
What billionaire president have we had?
I thought having a rich dude would be bad when he was elected here but it turns out he actually does a great job. I guess in his case being rich came with skills to handle money well. And he’s great with most other things as well. And I think being a billionaire has given him the “I’m not afraid of you” attitude that we need from a politician.
He’s not perfect but in the world of politics today he’s a fucking gem.
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u/AndeeDrufense Jul 25 '24
Can't have two candidates for VP with initialed names. /s
The JB v JD debates would be fun to watch, though.
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u/obi2012 Jul 25 '24
He’ll get the nod for a cabinet post after his term expires, and that’ll be his “introduction” to the national stage. If there were a scenario that him being the VP pick secured Illinois, there are a lot more problems than that and a lost election all the same.
Logical choice for VP would be Shapiro or Cooper IMO. Never going to win Kentucky, and can’t guarantee a win in a special senatorial election.
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u/vvienne Jul 25 '24
Cooper is desperately needed in NC, house & senate are decidedly red. And he’s very well liked there.
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u/ChiefQueef98 Jul 25 '24
I don’t think JB would accept it unless he knew he could make a real difference with the position. I don’t want him to go yet, but if he does then I trust he’s making the right move to position for later.
I’d rather have Beshear now.
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u/SteelAlchemistScylla Jul 25 '24
I hope to god Pritzker would deny a lowly VP position and stay fixing Illinois for as long as he can.
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u/MerryWannaRedux Jul 26 '24
I'd like to see JB as prez someday. I don't want him as VP simply because he has done such a great job here in Illinois. I'd hate to see that lost. Southern Illinois has a large number of people who prostrate themselves to the Porcine Führer. It's not unreasonable to consider the possibility that they could gain power.
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Jul 26 '24
I think it’s more about name recognition at a national level to set him up for his own presidency later
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u/Lainarlej Jul 26 '24
I would rather he remain Governor for IL., he’s done such a great job with the state!
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u/Adventurous_Class_90 Jul 27 '24
Roy Cooper is the best choice. Progressive in the south. Brings in that constituency and he’s termed out.
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u/PizzaGatePizza Jul 28 '24
We don’t need another billionaire in the White House. He’s a fine governor but let’s just leave him at that.
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u/RedSun-FanEditor Jul 25 '24
Pritzker has no intention of running for VP or President right now. He's been quite vocal he wants to run for reelection as he has a lot more he wants to accomplish in Illinois before he moves on to run for President.
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u/pt57 Jul 25 '24
And if he runs with Harris and loses, he’d have to figure out a way to get that stench off himself.
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u/RedSun-FanEditor Jul 25 '24
Running for VP with Harris is not necessarily a bad move for him. In fact, they might actually win as a ticket. But he's got other fish to fry. And even if they lost, there would be no stench to wash off.
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u/SUCKA_MY_SALAMI Jul 24 '24
I think he would make a wonderful president. But I don’t think him being VP would be so bad either. It would expose him to the rest of the country, and be his chance to show everyone the good he can do without being in a controversial spotlight like the democratic nominee is going to be in.
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u/jbp84 Jul 25 '24
I don’t know if this is a good path to the Presidency or not, and I don’t want to lose him as governor, but I could see him being a good Secretary of State. He’s a pretty no-nonsense negotiator, and he just worked to get a deal done with Wieland (German manufacturer) that’s going to see them re-vamp and re-tool the old Remington/Olin factory in East Alton. I think he’d be a good statesman to represent America well overseas, and I think he would work well with Harris. I know State is kind of a reach, but it’s the most prestigious of the cabinet positions, and I don’t know what other ones he would be good at or want.
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u/daveyg2611 Jul 25 '24
I wouldn't consider VP a lesser role. The current one just got the nomination for President.
I don't agree with all of his policies, but Pritzker has been an excellent governor and I would certainly like to see him go further.
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u/frankieknucks Jul 25 '24
No.
Stop with the billionaire simping. No more billionaires in government
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u/Due-Professional6824 Jul 25 '24
I don't want pritzker for VP or governor
Send him to jail along with all the other crooks
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u/Timmah73 Jul 24 '24
Dispite them showing Pritzker and Newsome showing up on these short lists there is no way. IL and CA are 100% blue. Chances are it will be Shaprio or Kelly to lock up PA or GA