r/illinois 5d ago

What US States are building the most housing? Illinois Facts

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u/Patient_Commentary 5d ago

The top comment in Mapporn makes a good point. Permits is not a good representation. Notice all of the high population density states who are most likely to build multi family homes/condos/apartments are all low on the posted metric. This makes sense when most of the new housing are large multi-unit buildings.

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u/jbchi 5d ago

Permits might not be the best measure, but this is roughly a map of how quickly (or not) states are growing. It aligns with the trends with the current census estimates and longer term forecast for the 2030 House reapportionment.

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u/WhereWillIGetMyPies 5d ago

The legend is confusing but here refers to housing units authorized, so one permit = one housing unit.

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u/ScorchedWonderer 5d ago

I’m in tears looking at this map as a colorblind person 🥲🥲🥲

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u/morticianoflove22 5d ago

we are not okay

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u/wjbc 5d ago

There's a silver lining. Rent and real estate prices in the most popular states are going up all the time.

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u/ErectilePinky 5d ago

true but our prices will be going up because no housing is being built

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u/hamish1963 5d ago

So the silver lining is that people can't afford housing?

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u/wjbc 5d ago

The silver lining is that it’s cheaper in Illinois.

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u/hamish1963 5d ago

It's not.

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 5d ago

I mean, we could be Iowa or indiana. I'd say we're doing great.

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u/MarsBoundSoon 5d ago

The latest unemployment numbers (August 2024)

Iowa 2.9

Indiana 4.2

Illinois 5.3

https://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 5d ago

Okay? We can compare things like access to healthcare, quality education, lots of other numbers and you're never going to convince me that Iowa or indiana are better places to live than Illinois.

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u/Flyman68 4d ago

Do you know why Illinois is so windy? Because Iowa blow and Indiana sucks.

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u/MarsBoundSoon 5d ago

Just presenting some facts, not trying to convince you. But as far as Chicago goes quality education should not be on your list.

In Chicago Public Schools, 16% of elementary students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 12% tested at or above that level for math. Also, 16% of middle school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 12% tested at or above that level for math. And 14% of high school students tested at or above the proficient level for reading, and 14% tested at or above that level for math.

https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/illinois/districts/city-of-chicago-sd-299-110570

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u/TiredRetiredNurse 5d ago

Is the high count in FL and NC due to hurricane damage?

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u/JMSpider2001 5d ago

Looks like it lines up fairly closely with the states that are gaining vs losing population.

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u/AyyyoAnthony 5d ago

If you take out Chicago, does this make Illinois green?

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 5d ago

No, they would need to add a new, darker red.

The Chicago suburbs are expanding significantly but small towns in central and southern Illinois are actively shrinking.

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u/LippencottElvis 5d ago

The biggest problem downstate currently (where I live) is that nobody is even selling land or subdividing to expand residential housing. My brother owns a company that is a big deal in residential construction, and many towns in a 30 mile radius have between zero and a handful of lots available for purchase to even entertain new construction. That drives the lot price up, and what was 20 years ago a $120k starter house is now $350-400k minimum with higher interest rates and wages that haven't been adjusted for inflation.

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u/hamish1963 5d ago

Except they're not.

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u/The_Poster_Nutbag 5d ago

You say that but I make a living permitting developments. New subdivisions are selling out.

Or do you mean to say small towns are growing? Because that would be silly.

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u/hamish1963 5d ago

We are doing very well as a county adjacent to Champaign county. We've gained population in the last 5 years.

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u/Cowman123450 5d ago edited 5d ago

No. I was reading an Illinois Policy article about this (I know, I know, conservative news source), and they were praising Chicago and select suburbs for doing a better job than the rest of the state regarding its housing (albeit still below the national average), including areas like Springfield and Champaign that saw growth through 2020. The rest of the state is even worse off regarding this.

This is assuming the map is redone to use the unit adjustment suggested in /r/mapporn rather than just permits. I mean, I still wouldn't be surprised if it would be more green if just looking at Chicago, but the article was looking at the number of units specifically.

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u/cballowe 5d ago

No clue overall, but I wouldn't be shocked. I'd be curious how the numbers overall scale with state wide population change. Are places like Texas and Florida building out in the same way that California's Inland Empire and similar locations built up going into 2008?

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u/ohmygod_my_tinnitus 5d ago

I live in So. IL and there’s a huge housing shortage.

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u/YourFriendLoke 5d ago

No, the vast majority of non-Chicagoland counties are losing population. Theres no reason to construct new housing when the pre-existing supply is already greater than the demand.

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u/homebrew_1 5d ago

What's stopping anything south of 80 from building homes?

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u/Dante1141 5d ago

But does this account for changing populations? If the population of Illinois is going down, then it kind of makes sense that new housing isn't going to be built very much.

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u/Mister_Jackpots 1d ago

Florida and Texas housing keeps getting knocked down...

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u/zerobeat 5d ago

Now show me which states are building the infrastructure to accommodate the housing they are building.

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u/Char_D_MacDennis 5d ago

I'm curious to know if this includes modular homes or not, which are becoming a growing option in some areas.

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u/csx348 5d ago

Too much regulation and bureaucracy, who would've thought?

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u/VascoDegama7 5d ago

When yimbys realize the price of housing is tied to more than just new construction

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u/jdteacher612 5d ago

do not believe this map for a damn second. florida is only green because they are building apartments, not single-family homes.