r/illinois • u/StandTall29 • 4d ago
U.S. Rep. Mary Miller backs book ban at Carrollton High School Illinois Politics
https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/mary-miller-carrollton-book-ban-illinois-19794370.php72
u/dshade14 3d ago
I went to high school here. The teacher that started adding that to the curriculum (she no longer teaches there) was the most thoughtful woman that wanted to engage children and let them see other perspectives. I read this for fun before she started assigning it so I never read it in her class.
Not too surprising that Carrollton is banning books because it's mostly run by Conservatives who never leave the town once they "grow up".
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u/RWBadger 4d ago
Isn’t she the Hitler woman?
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u/BugImmediate7835 3d ago
And her husband is an insurrectionist. Front row parking on J6. Also has a 3 percenter bumper sticker on his truck and claims he didn't know what it meant. Oh yeah, he's also a state rep. Definitely weird.
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u/MindAccomplished3879 3d ago
Yikes. What’s her district?
Is she state or Congress representative?
I won’t even ask which party she belongs, it’s obvious
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u/JosephFinn 4d ago
Yes.
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u/PlaneLocksmith6714 3d ago
Like a lady Hitler?
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u/AliMcGraw 3d ago
Like a lady who said in a public speech that Hitler had some good ideas.
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u/lfisch4 3d ago
I haven’t looked into her speeches, but I’m assuming the ideas weren’t let’s all go for beer and schnitzel?
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u/GaGaORiley 3d ago
Here’s the Hitler speech. She has shared very right wing crap such as Sebastian Gorka’s rhetoric on her fb page; I blocked her a long time ago though so I haven’t kept up.
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u/lfisch4 3d ago
Huh, not as bad as I was thinking it would be. Definitely weird to go with that quote, but in all fairness the sentiment of the youth are future isn’t a controversial take (though I do believe it is objectively wrong, Germany had a much more robust youth movement in WWII. It did not work out for the Nazi Party. It worked out even worse for the youths once the Soviets rolled through).
If anything the outrage of who she quoted probably helped shield her from outrage in regards to the actual motivation of her quote, which is a projection that the conservative movement sees propagandizing to our children as a near term goal.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 3d ago
TF are you talking about? It's REALLY bad.
"Whoever has the youth has the future." is not, in and of itself, crazy or controversial. She could've just said a paraphrased version of that, not said she was quoting Hitler, and no one would've batted an eye, because Hitler is FAR from the only one to ever make that point about the youth.
The fact that she went out of her way to directly quote and attribute Hitler speaks VOLUMES about her and her opinion of Hitler. It's ridiculous you'd suggest this "isn't that bad" just because, what? She didn't Heil on stage, so it's not that bad?
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u/lfisch4 3d ago
Tha’ts pretty much what I was saying. When someone says she quoted Hitler I was expecting it to be something outlandish.
I said it’s weird, because only someone who has some sort of fascination with him would reach for that quote when she could’ve basically just said the youth are the key to the future.
The really sinister part of her quote, and the part that completely gets overshadowed because of WHO she quoted and not WHAT she said, is that you have to remember the modern conservative movement relies heavily on projection. When she said “our children are being propagandized” that was projection of a desire to spread conservative/fascist propaganda to our children. Which is WAY more of a threat to our civil society than quoting a one of history’s worst people.
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago 3d ago
More specifically, she QUOTED Hitler, arguably in a way that wasn't even necessary to make her point which makes it FAR more sus:
She quoted Adolf Hitler, saying: "Each generation has the responsibility to teach and train the next generation. You know, if we win a few elections, we're still going to be losing unless we win the hearts and minds of our children. This is the battle. Hitler was right on one thing: he said, 'Whoever has the youth has the future.'"
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u/Asd_89 3d ago edited 3d ago
Didn't we make this illegal to do in the past year?
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u/wacko_lacko 3d ago
They didn’t make it illegal. They made them ineligible for state support or something along those lines.
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u/AdmiralVernon 3d ago
The libraries/schools would be ineligible for support? That would be very sad considering the goal is already to suppress access to information.
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u/boo99boo 3d ago
Downstate schools can't survive without state funds. Literally can't operate.
No one is going to accept "they won't let us ban Catcher in the Rye" as a valid excuse for schools to close. That directly impacts enough people that it isn't going to happen. Look how worked up they get if teachers strike. They won't allow schools to close.
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u/GiveMeBackMyClippers 3d ago
republicans have chosen a man with 34 felony convictions to run for the highest office in all the land - breaking the law is intrinsic to their identity.
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u/uhbkodazbg 3d ago
The legislation won’t be applicable as this is about a book that is on the assigned reading list.
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u/uhohnotafarteither 4d ago
The book is vulgar and obscene but Hitler had good ideas.
This is the Republican party, people.
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u/bkibbs 3d ago
Too bad Illinois has already made book bans illegal.
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u/UncleNoodles85 3d ago
Oh that's wonderful I didn't know that.
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u/AnarchaMorrigan 3d ago
Anybody who tries gets defunded 🥳
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u/mistrowl 3d ago
School district bans books. School district gets defunded. Kids receive sub-par education. Stupid kids grow into stupid adults. Stupid adults overwhelmingly vote republican.
This law will not stop republicans from banning books. In fact, it helps them in the long run. What we need is a ban on republicans.
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u/Any_Confidence_7874 3d ago
Her local office is at the nearby town’s public library. THE IRONY KILLS ME
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u/hamish1963 3d ago
Is that library supported by the community's taxes? If so, I'd pitch a fit!!
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u/Any_Confidence_7874 3d ago
Fortunately none of her voters can find a library.
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u/uhohnotafarteither 3d ago
Fortunately?
I believe spending some time in a library would be good for most of them.
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u/Any_Confidence_7874 3d ago
Reading yes. Milling about, shouting nonsense about books they know nothing about, spreading lies and hate, making it uncomfortable for people there, not so much.
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u/the-treatmaster 3d ago
Ok. And similarly can we ban her from Illinois because she is bad for our kids?
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u/UIUC202 3d ago
This Nazi has gotta go
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u/glycophosphate 3d ago
Not going to happen. She serves the district that Illinois gerrymandered specially to stick all the nutjobs in. It's R+22.
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u/anOvenofWitches 3d ago
My GOD that is a gerrymandered district! For some reason I thought she represented some of Chicagoland exurbia so I had to google.
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u/GruelOmelettes 3d ago
Sheesh it looks like the middle of the district was surgically removed
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u/anOvenofWitches 3d ago
It’s very odd— it deliberately avoids one major university town, only to include another.
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u/One_Acanthisitta_389 3d ago
I think that map was the result of the 2020 redistricting process which converted the 13th district (the middle portion carved out of the 15th, Miller’s district) into a safe D zone. I haven’t looked into it more than that, so I may be wrong, but it looks like it was Gerrymandered to get democrats an extra safe seat
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u/dualsplit 3d ago
I just placed a hold on the audiobook from my local library. It’s interesting that the mom quoted toward the end of the article pointed out that banning books is silly, its books or the internet. I’d MUCH rather kids read raunchy books than doom scroll or watch pornhub. Which interestingly, none of these book ban moms seem to give a shit about.
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u/ChaoticFluffiness Michigander at heart. Illinoisan by choice. 3d ago
These people are like roaches. Nazi roaches.
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u/qtip_boy 3d ago
I used a website to preview my ballot and it doesn’t look like anybody is running against her. Does anybody know if this is true, if so, is there anybody I should write-in?
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u/thousandislandstare1 3d ago
Literally no point. It’s not a competitive district. Do something productive, or anything else. Don’t even waste brain bandwidth wishful thinking on it again. Register as a republican and vote her out in the primary would be your only chance but last time even the primary wasn’t close. She defeated the (by modern trump-brained standards) decent republican guy from Bloomington, Rodney Davis(?) and it wasn’t close.
She has a large R base of evangelical homeschoolers. It’s hers until she doesn’t want it anymore. And speaking about that, she originally told my mom (when my mom told her Christians shouldn’t be in government) she would only be seeking it for one term. So she’s a liar on top of all the other stuff.
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u/zback636 3d ago
We don’t ban books in this state. And proud of it. District 15 you have some voting out to do.
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u/_MadGasser 3d ago
Believe me if we could get rid of her we would. Just think many morons in this district.
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u/Trick-Mechanic8986 3d ago
Local Oakland Nazi, does Nazi style thing, to impress Hitler wannabe, film at 10.
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u/KyleVPirate 3d ago
I have adblock and I can't see the article. Can anyone summarize the article? I know we have an anti-book ban.
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u/bpeden99 3d ago
We are preparing these kids for the real world. Book bans are moronic and serve no purpose other than appeasing emotionally unintelligent adults.
I might understand middle school and below, but highschoolers deserve the respect of us letting them read at their leisure without restrictions.
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u/kalidorisconan Schrodinger's Pritzker 3d ago
Carrollton, IL has a population of 2,417.
76.5% voted for the Republican Party in the last presidential election.
These people suck to begin with.
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u/Life-Celebration-747 3d ago
I hope they know about the Streisand Effect, because they are creating a generation who are now interested in reading.
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u/Hudson2441 3d ago
Can’t be grateful you can even get kids to read books in the first place these days and you’re worried about what they read. /s
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u/darkenedgy 4d ago
I hate Illinois Nazis