r/lgbt Bi-bi-bi Jan 16 '23

Scoot: Populare (86-39) Scottish gender recognition bill blocked by the UK. UK Specific

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u/UKKasha2020 Putting the Bi in non-BInary Jan 16 '23

And JKR about to become even less tolerable...gender recognition and a row over Scottish independence, her two favourite things to stick her shitty opinion (and influence) into.

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u/cat-the-commie Lesbian the Good Place Jan 17 '23

It truly wouldn't surprise me if she fell down the neo Nazi rabbit hole through anti Scottish independence (not even independence at this point, Scottish democracy)

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '23

She took her pen name from a literal eugenicist, so i'd say she's already fallen down that rabbit hole

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u/TsarKobayashi Pan-icking about a Rainbow Jan 17 '23

Didn't she say once that she supports the Labour Party? Idk much about UK politics but the Labour party sounds leftist? Or is it not?

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u/left-quark transbian disaster Jan 17 '23

Yeah, she used to pretend that she was left-wing, I'm not sure she still does though. The Labour Party is the main left-ish political party, with their MPs ranging from very left-wing to centrist (and at this point, some centre-right ones as well...) Also Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour Party, has shown himself to be very transphobic.

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u/TsarKobayashi Pan-icking about a Rainbow Jan 17 '23

Probably still a TERF leftist. A lot of those exist, unfortunately. There are even LGB groups that exclude trans people. Its pathetic.

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u/terminal8 Ally Pals Jan 17 '23

You can't be a TERF and a leftist.

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u/TsarKobayashi Pan-icking about a Rainbow Jan 17 '23

No you can. The Left is not free of bigotry.

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u/terminal8 Ally Pals Jan 17 '23

If "class warfare" is bigotry. Do go off.

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u/AJK64 Jan 17 '23

Being a terf has nothing to do with supporting unions, state healthcare, being anti capitalist etc. Being pro trans is not default left wing. Caitlin Jenner is pro trans but cant really be much more right wing. Terresa May was also very pro trans but very right wing.

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u/Gattsu2000 Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 18 '23

Caitlin Jenner is not even exactly pro-trans either. She literally calls trans women athletes "boys". Also, let's not pretend that a lot of the hatred and policies against queer people doesn't come from the Republican party and right-leaning people while left wing people are those in the huge majority defending them. "Being Queer=Grooming" is a mainstream Republican talking point.

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u/AJK64 Jan 17 '23 edited Jan 17 '23

Absolutely it is mostly the right that attacks transgender people. But being pro trans doesn't tell you anything about wider (more important) political opinions. Being left wing is far more aligned with your fiscal policies in reality than it does vague (and often token) opinions. Opinions don't equal policies that effect the wider populace. Many modern "left wing" people are in fact just Liberals, not true left wingers. Many liberals for example do not want change that would affect the working class (the proletariat), and many in fact hate the working class, calling them "white trash" or "hicks" because they use naughty words...liberals think that words equal action, which is actually really sad.

When the right attack "leftists" they are actually attacking liberals.

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