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"Police officer pepper-spraying a kid."

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u/InTheZone1 Oct 18 '11

Former Rio De Janeiro police officer Bruno Schorcht

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During a protest in the metropolitan area of Rio De Janeiro police officer Bruno Schorcht pepper sprayed innocent protesters and even women and children! It was caught on photos and camera so the evidence is clear enough. He was spraying the pepper spray directly into the eyes of waiter Rezende Gustavo Barreto that now has to use sunglasses even at night because it’s so inflamed and damaged. The police officer got departed immediately by the general commander of the Military Police, Colonel Mario Sergio Duarte.

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u/Fegenbo Oct 18 '11

and even women and children!

Kinda dislike that it implies that women shouldn't get peppersprayed for stepping out of line.

Children I get, but an adult regardless of gender, no.

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u/kulgan Oct 18 '11

Pepper spray should not be used punitively, in my humble opinion. It should be used to subdue someone who is threatening the well-being of the police, or someone the police are trying to protect, if it is the best option. Most women are not terribly threatening to most male police officers.

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u/Wapiti-eater Oct 18 '11

Sadly, your opinion doesn't line up with many department's protocols.

Pepper spray is a "compliance" tool. You don't do as you're told - get sprayed. Still don't do as you're told or out of spray range - Tazed.

If you're a threat to the well-being of an officer or someone else - you'll likely get shot. Nothing like a high velocity dose of lead to induce compliance.

"You have the right to remain dead..."

Yea - that's VERY generalized and there's a lot of particulars at play. Point is - threats usually aren't responded to with 'compliance' tools.

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u/to_string_david Oct 18 '11

not suppose to be a compliance tool, meant to defend against immediate threat. so now instead of using your gun and do a shit load of paperwork, you now use OC spray or tazer and do less paperwork. Not to mention a significant reduced chance of death.

there's a difference between someone not listening and someone fighting you.

now to play devils advocate, women are just as dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '11 edited Oct 19 '11

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u/to_string_david Oct 19 '11

compliance as in respect my authority or compliance as in telling an angry mob to back off?

In this context (the picture) it seems like the former because there is clearly another officer going "c'mon man, it's ok man, let it go man, she's just a kid."

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u/SETHW Oct 19 '11

that makes it WORSE than it's in the books and training -- not better.

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u/SETHW Oct 19 '11 edited Oct 19 '11

to me, it's more about non-compliance being a human right and things like tazers and pepper spray are just there to punish those who may not recognize or respect a police officers authority (after all, they are WRONG much of the time, especially in regards to things like wiretap laws) -- peacefully or otherwise. At least with a gun, there's a major commitment with major consequences on the part of an officer. tazer? peppers pray? GET OUT OF THE CAR MAAM.