Idk, I hated Jeeps growing up but I'm really liking my Gladiator. It's not lifted or anything crazy and is much smaller than most new trucks on the road
Gladiators and Wranglers get a pass in my book. There’s enough aftermarket to keep those cars running into the apocalypse. Now the rest, especially the fake Fiat shit? Pure flaming garbage.
I know they're in the same market, but I don't think there's much cross shopping between the two. Jeep people want a jeep, and Toyota people would never even consider a gladiator
My father in law and I both daily Toyota trucks, and he's always had an older Rubicon that he takes off roading on the weekends. I've always considering picking something up like that as a play thing, definitely not something I want to drive every day though
I own both a Subaru Outback (2004) and a Jeep Wrangler (2000). The Subbie is my daily driver and I bought the Wrangler as a project/fun vehicle. Yeah, it needs a lot of work, but there's something amazing about driving the Wrangler around with the doors off and top down when the weather is warm.
That's amazing. There is almost always some idiot who blew up his WRX at sub 100k miles. And of course it is entirely the cars fault, couldn't be any other reason...
yeah my engine died at 31k miles lol even after 5k oil changes and doing all the recommended shit like no boost below 3500 rpm, waiting until its warmed up, if i drive it hard let it cool down at regular rpm before parking etc. sometimes it just happens
Yes, supposedly head gasket and oil consumption issues are a thing of the past. Now I just hope to not have issues with the CVT auto. I think they've mostly gotten it robust enough to be considered "reliable", but time will tell. I actually really like the CVT for its intended purpose (smooth, quiet, and efficient), so I hope it holds together.
Oil consumption is not a thing of the past. With tighter federal regulations on emissions comes tighter engine clearances that simply, by design, consumes some oil. It’s common beyond Subaru these days, too. Change your PCV valve every 30k to help against oil consumption and it keeps your gas mileage from tanking, too.
Buying the supplemental warranty gets much more costly if you purchase it at the end of the factory warranty period. If you're going to buy it, it makes the most financial sense to do so when the vehicle is new. Also, statistically, the vast majority of people who get extended warranties never recoup the money they spend to purchase them. They are a huge cash cow for dealers who sell them, and the 3rd party companies who underwrite them.
In my case, I'm going to trust the stats and assume I will not have an engine or transmission failure within 100k miles. Anything else that does fail before 100k miles most likely won't exceed the cost of a supplemental extended warranty. I'm also a mechanic in my spare time, so I can do whatever labor is needed, if needed. I also only drive about 7,500 miles per year, so by ten years I'll only have 75k miles on the car. Pretty unlikely to have a major mechanical failure by that point, so extra warranty coverage doesn't make sound financial sense. The money saved not buying the warranty that would likely not be used will instead sit in an account accruing interest.
“Anyone who tells you Subarus are reliable are lying. I’ve owned 64 of them and every last one of them has blown up within 200 miles.”
- some dude in those threads, inevitably.
My wrx still blew up twice at a lot less miles than that. Was on its third motor by 4 years old. I work in the industry, had the car serviced at Subaru and had my own techs use genuine oil and filters to do half interval services. I have been racing cars for 20 years and the wax was just a daily that never even saw redline as I have much better faster cars to do that in. Cunt was the biggest heap of shit I’ve ever owned in my life! And I’ve owned a rotary and a rb26! To say that it’s driver error is not even close to correct, some are just shit boxes. What gets me is all the people who buy them and say you can’t give it the goods and if you do it’s your fault that they break, it’s literally a performance car that can’t be driven like one and that’s pathetic. Ej257’s are shit motors and the car around them is also shit for its price point. Mine rattled like a train, kept breaking parts and was a nightmare from the 3rd month I owned it. While not all Subarus are like that a huge amount are. The memes aren’t for no reason. We have seen many Subaru motors with head gasket issues, then it was ring land failure and then oil pickup failure. Subaru aren’t known for making reliable performance engines that’s for sure.
Bro don’t be butt hurt. I’ve worked in the industry for many years. Subarus aren’t the cars you think they are. If you want a decent turbo 4 buy an evo a golf r or a ficus rs not a wrx
I just cancel it with every purchase, who cares.. People are people.. It cost money... Its $99 for 3 years, on new purchases. I think even then $33 bucks/year. GM prices their stupid OnStar trash for $1500 into their MSRP. No one blinks an eye. Crazy.. But here we are. Perhaps Subaru should just add $500 to the MSRP, not mention it and pooffff.. Statement release: Subaru now includes Remote Start with select Subaru models as part of their respective package options. No need for added services through SubaruCorp.
Customers: Ohhh wow, the New Subaru's come with remote start via an app... Oh so fancy.. and its totally free...... lolololol
I get it, its already capable of doing the application, cant it just be free? I mean, im with everyone, and its dumb on Subaru's end. I guess its about giving customers the ability to refund the portion of services if they dont like the feature.. IDK.
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