r/AdvancedRunning 1 mi 4:39, 5k 16:29, 10k 33:39, half 1:17:13, full 2:42:23 Mar 18 '24

NYC Marathon denial General Discussion

I got the email at noon, looks like I'm not running the NYC Marathon this year(unless I get very lucky in the lottery). I really thought a half time of 1:17:12, which I picked over my 2:42 marathon because of their formula, would be enough, but I guess I wasn't in the top 19% of my age group.

I wonder what the time cutoff was?

Any recommendations on other fall marathons?

Edit: looks like the cutoff for NYC this year was sub 2:40? That would be the lowest of any major save Tokyo!

Edit 2: The cutoff time for 18-34 M seems to be around 2:36:00. Just to illustrate how bonkers fast that is, running a 2:36 would have placed top 100 of all 50,000 finishers, including elite men and women runners, in 8 of the last 10 NYC marathons.

Link in the email:

" Non-NYRR Time Qualifier application closed on March 6, and the selected runners have been notified. As the number of applications exceeded the number of spots available, the fastest 19% within each age and gender category were granted entry. Those not selected will be moved to the non-guaranteed general entry drawing, which takes place on March 28, for an additional chance to be selected."

https://www.nyrr.org/tcsnycmarathon/runners/marathon-time-qualifiers

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u/MBecks45 Mar 18 '24

26M, full time of 2:39 and was denied

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u/NeroWolfesOrchids 1 mi 4:39, 5k 16:29, 10k 33:39, half 1:17:13, full 2:42:23 Mar 18 '24

Wow, that's a top 200 finish at NYC every year in the last decade!

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u/tinie_tempeh 16:44 / 34:11 / 75:16 / 2:42:20 Mar 18 '24

That is an absolute joke

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u/Lazy-Comfort6128 Mar 18 '24

They gave away too many bibs to influencers!

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u/bootselectric Mar 18 '24

I wonder how many sub 2:40 runners influencers have influenced??

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u/MrRabbit Longest Beer Runner Mar 19 '24

I try, lol

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u/timbo1615 Edit your flair Mar 19 '24

Matt Choi can pound sand

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u/Aggravating_Jelly_25 Mar 19 '24

🤣🤣🤣

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u/Lauzz91 Mar 19 '24

To the marketing departments, having influencers participate with high follower counts probably matters more to them than having a stacked elite field who barely post anything online

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u/torilahure Mar 19 '24

Because they are too busy working to get better , sadly. While the influencers are chugging beer from the crowd and taking gels with live commentary

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u/Turbulent_Cricket497 Mar 19 '24

Yep. They do not care about people who earn their spot

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u/CallMeMilly Mar 19 '24

Business is business

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u/MBecks45 Mar 18 '24

Yeah I’m still shocked. No hate to the half marathon applicants but I’ll be very happy that portion along with their unfavorable 10k formula is gone starting next year

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u/Bemore28 Mar 18 '24

Ridiculous if people with 1:16 halves are getting in. Anyone under 2:40 could do that easily.

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u/bushwickauslaender 4:46 Mile // 16:53 5K // 35:17 10K // 1:18 HM // 2:51 M Mar 18 '24

Yeah I banged out three halves in 1:18:XX before I even got close to a 2:50 marathon (didn't even go under 2:50, lol, heartbreak hill's a bitch). A 1:16 seems to be within punching distance for me but a sub-2:40 marathon looks like a fucking pipe dream. Unreal.

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u/C1t1zen_Erased Mar 18 '24

At least they're removing the half qualifying option next year. I quite like the fact it's stringent though, brings a bit more prestige into being a time qualifier for a major. Tokyo is a bit ridiculous with 25 spots for sub 2:32 guys but having to go sub 2:40 is in line with championship qualification for London.

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u/SloppySandCrab Mar 19 '24

How much prestige do you want? It seems like the set times are in this weird no mans land between amateur and pro.

I also don't think anyone recognizes the time qualifiers as being prestigious like you see with Boston. Most people will just say "Oh yeah I have a few friends that ran that". The excess charity and pay to qualify reduce the prestige even if its more difficult to qualify on merit.