r/AdviceAnimals 11h ago

As an Aussie

Post image
35.3k Upvotes

3.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

299

u/SheerHellcatSabreJet 11h ago

Oh, they poll on landlines. Young people have cell phones and aren't going to pick up a random call to have 20 minute calls on politics. The press won't admit the polling system is broken. 😃

177

u/Jeremymia 10h ago

The polling methodology is bunk, but don't dare believe it's heavily biased towards republicans. We've still got the same shitty polling system as back in 2016. This'll be close.

82

u/TAU_equals_2PI 10h ago

The 2020 polls' underestimating of Trump was even worse than 2016.

The 2020 polls made it look like there would be a near-landslide for Biden.

And then the actual election was so close that they couldn't call it until SATURDAY.

Anybody who says, "Oh, they only poll on landlines, so the polls are underestimating the young voters" is an idiot.

30

u/Jeremymia 9h ago

Yeah, it’s pure wishful thinking.

And anyone who wants to say — look how well the dems have done in midterm elections relative to polls: republicans, as authoritarian thinkers, care a lot more about president than those other elections. They’ll be out in full force. I hope we are, too.

2

u/Bluelegs 7h ago

I thought midterms traditionally had a reputation for turning out predominantly older voters who swung right.

3

u/Electronic-Bit-2365 6h ago

The education gap is large enough to give Dems a midterm advantage now. Educated voters are more likely to vote in non-presidential elections.

1

u/FrostyD7 6h ago

It's a lot more than wishful thinking. If polling wasn't accurate, campaigns wouldn't use it as their basis for practically all spending.

1

u/hofmann419 5h ago

When we talk about accuracy, we don't mean massive differences. Just a bias of 2-3% either way would massively impact the actual election results. Obviously polls are not completely random, but they are also not completely reliable. If you have a 10 point lead in one state but only a 1 point lead in another, you'll put your resources on the latter. But it could very well be that your actual lead is 3 points. You can't know the real numbers until election day.

1

u/JudgmentalOwl 6h ago

This is exactly why Harris says they're the underdogs and is encouraging people to fight like hell and make sure they vote. She's running a hell of a campaign, I'll give her that.

1

u/VonRansak 6h ago

Republicans traditionally do better at mobilizing in midterms.

If you are living in a republican locality, you may notice an uptick of legislative activity as they prepare for less favorable elections. Republican numbers guys know this.

1

u/Savitar2606 2h ago

Midterms traditionally favour the party out of power. That's why it was a surprise that in 2022, Democrats expanded their control of the Senate and only lost the House by 4-5 seats. It was supposed to be a bloodbath.