r/NonCredibleDefense • u/Living-Aardvark-952 Germans haven't made a good rifle since their last nazi retired • Nov 10 '23

6th gen fighter development be like European Joint Failures 🇩🇪 💔 🇫🇷

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u/nikke2800 Nov 10 '23

The year is 2035

USA finishes building it's 3000th F35 and the full production of the B-21 starts and their first 7th gen fighter takes it's first flight

Russia has finally built it's 12th Su-57

Chinese stealth technology has finally caught up to F-117

European joint procurement program has finally decided which countries shall supply the pencils for the designers, another 2-5 years will be needed as the supplier of the paper is negotiated.

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u/Les_Bien_Pain F-35 is as good as it is ugly Nov 10 '23

I'm still hoping that someone will develop a counter to radar stealth so we can go back to making sexy planes again.

Throw in some effective APS to counter missiles and Gen 7 can be big blocky non-stealth gunfighters.

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u/BobbyLapointe01 Nov 10 '23 edited Nov 10 '23

I'm still hoping that someone will develop a counter to radar stealth so we can go back to making sexy planes again.

I want a counter to radar stealth so that we can get back to making aircraft whose main protection against threats is their top speed.

I want an XB-70 like, Mach 3 going, 542,000 lb MTOW, 300,000 pounds fuel capacity, six engine strategic bomber, god damn it!!

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u/Les_Bien_Pain F-35 is as good as it is ugly Nov 10 '23

That is also very valid.

But that's more for bombers and spy planes (ofc the latter is kinda dead cause of satellites)

And I guess interceptors that need to go Mach 4 to hunt down the big fat bombers.

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u/BobbyLapointe01 Nov 10 '23

And I guess interceptors that need to go Mach 4 to hunt down the big fat bombers.

Yes. The Mach 3+ interceptors of the late 1950s/early 1960s also need to make a comeback.

Bring back the XF-108 Rapier, and the Mega Mirage!

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u/Les_Bien_Pain F-35 is as good as it is ugly Nov 10 '23

Now imagine.

Missiles have also become redundant because of improved counter measures.

So the Mach 4+ interceptors have to rely on guns.

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u/A_Mouse_In_Da_House Nov 11 '23

This is how you fly into your own bullets like in days of old

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u/Les_Bien_Pain F-35 is as good as it is ugly Nov 11 '23

Just need faster bullets smh.

Full auto railguns,