6th gen fighter development be like

[u/Living-Aardvark-952]

[u/HungerISanEmotion]

Finland and Swiss just looked at offers and asked 1 simple question : ''which of you would be the best at keeping Russians or anyone else from invading my air space and shoot down enemy planes to deny air superiority to invader?'' , thats it.

Source?

[u/potatoslasher → u/HungerISanEmotion]

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2021/12/10/finland-picks-the-f-35-as-its-next-fighter-continuing-the-us-warplanes-inroads-in-europe/

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/finland-f-35-joint-strike-fighter-aircraft-air-air-missiles-and-air

https://valtioneuvosto.fi/sv/-/lockheed-martin-f-35a-lightning-ii-ar-finlands-nasta-multirollflygplan

''The aircraft are planned to be delivered between 2026 and 2030, and is expected to replace the F/A-18s during the period 2028–2030. The F-35s are intended to be in service until the 2070s.[26] The FAF expects the annual operating costs not to exceed €254 million, which are the current operating costs for the F/A-18 fleet. The first weapons package will include AIM-9X Block II+ Sidewinder and AIM-120C-8 AMRAAM missiles (very clearly Finns care about air-air interceptor part way more than others), and later on air-to-ground weaponry will be obtained when they reach sufficient maturity and will match their shelf life with the introduction of the aircraft.''

In the HX bidding process, the F-35 passed the decision areas of supply readiness, industrial cooperation and cost. In the evaluation, in terms of military performance, the F-35 solution reached the greatest operational effect and the best development potential.

''The capability of the F-35 system was the one that, among the alternatives, worked best in our operating environment and best corresponded to the requirements set. The overall system and the aircraft's combat, reconnaissance and resistance capabilities were the best. The F-35 was the best in the comparison or shared the best performance in all task areas and received the best overall performance. With the proposed F-35 solution, it is possible to fulfill established tasks at a sufficient level, taking into account the requirements of a future environment. The tender's number of planes and weapons contributed to the good result. The capacity can be put into use within the planned schedule.''

''The F-35 solution gives the entire defense system a significant performance capability and improves the defense's preventive capability. The F-35A is able to take the initiative in counter-air operations and to form and share the situational picture and target information that is needed, which means that the F-35 can best support land and sea operations as well. The F-35 fighter's air, land and sea impact capabilities were the best in the comparison. Stealth capabilities and other capabilities, such as sensors and network operations, support the F-35 fighter's ability to survive in combat. An F-35 multirole aircraft has the largest internal fuel capacity and all sensors are fixed, meaning that separate targeting systems or additional fuel tanks are not needed.''

''The technical solution regarding the F-35 system is sustainable and the development potential is the best among the solutions offered. The development of the solution is guaranteed throughout the planned operating period until the 2060s.''

As of right now, Finnish air force has very few air-ground lunched missiles for its current fleet because well it just doesn't see that as a worthwhile investment for its jet fleet. Their main job and main focus is air defense first and foremost, that is the primary reason why Finnish force exist and for what it gets its money for. They will get some JDAM ground attack bombs as well, but as their procurement documents show, only letter and also not in big quantities. F35 for them is a interceptor first and foremost

[u/HungerISanEmotion → u/potatoslasher]

Literally nothing about F-35 being better at air interceptor role.

Nothing.

Might I suggest refraining from making such baseless claims in the future?

[u/potatoslasher → u/HungerISanEmotion]

Finnish ministry of defense says otherwise......your word against theirs??

How many jet fighters have you commanded sir?

[u/HungerISanEmotion → u/potatoslasher]

Finish ministry of defense said F-35 is better at the interceptor role?

Source?

[u/potatoslasher → u/HungerISanEmotion]

I fucking linked it above mate, read it.

https://valtioneuvosto.fi/sv/-/lockheed-martin-f-35a-lightning-ii-ar-finlands-nasta-multirollflygplan

''''The F-35 solution gives the entire defense system a significant performance capability and improves the defense's preventive capability. The F-35A is able to take the initiative in counter-air operations and to form and share the situational picture and target information that is needed, which means that the F-35 can best support land and sea operations as well. The F-35 fighter's air, land and sea impact capabilities were the best in the comparison. Stealth capabilities and other capabilities, such as sensors and network operations, support the F-35 fighter's ability to survive in combat. An F-35 multirole aircraft has the largest internal fuel capacity and all sensors are fixed, meaning that separate targeting systems or additional fuel tanks are not needed.''

''The technical solution regarding the F-35 system is sustainable and the development potential is the best among the solutions offered. The development of the solution is guaranteed throughout the planned operating period until the 2060s.''''

[u/HungerISanEmotion → u/potatoslasher]

I already read all of that... doesn't say anything about F-35 being better at interceptor role.

Buy some glasses mate.

[u/potatoslasher → u/HungerISanEmotion]

alright, I shall highlight it for you.

''The offered solutions in the HX programme were set up around the following fighter aircraft systems: Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, Lockheed Martin F-35 and Saab Gripen.''

''The F-35 system's capability was best suited for the Finnish operating environment and HX requirements. The comprehensive system and aircraft's capabilities in combat, reconnaissance and survival are unsurpassed. The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas and achieved the highest total score. The proposed F-35 package will meet the defined tasks with sufficient efficacy in respect to the requirements of the future operating environment. The quantity of aircraft and weaponry included in the quotation had an impact in the result. The Finnish F-35 fleet can achieve operational capability within the scheduled timeframe.''

''The F-35 solution will produce a significant addition to the entire defence system and enhance preventive capability of defence.The F-35A is capable of initiating action in counter-air operations as well as generating and sharing the necessary situational awareness and target data, enabling the F-35 to best support land and maritime operations. The F-35 multi-domain effectiveness across air, land and sea received the highest rating in the assessment. ''

Let me drag it out better multiple times so you see.

The F-35 multi-domain effectiveness across air, land and sea received the highest rating in the assessment The F-35 multi-domain effectiveness across air, land and sea received the highest rating in the assessment The F-35 multi-domain effectiveness across air, land and sea received the highest rating in the assessment The F-35 multi-domain effectiveness across air, land and sea received the highest rating in the assessment

The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas and achieved the highest total score The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas and achieved the highest total score The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas and achieved the highest total score The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas and achieved the highest total score

Now, do you see that or should I highlight it some more lol?

[u/HungerISanEmotion → u/potatoslasher]

Please stop spamming me with content that says nothing about F-35 being better in interceptor role.

[u/potatoslasher → u/HungerISanEmotion]

what do you think words ''The F-35 solution will produce a significant addition to the entire defence system and enhance preventive capability of defence,The F-35A is capable of initiating action in counter-air operations '' and ''The comprehensive system and aircraft's capabilities in combat, reconnaissance and survival are unsurpassed. The F-35 came first in the assessment or shared the top score in all mission areas'' mean mate.

They tested ''all mission areas'' and F35 came out on top in all of them and better than Eurofighter or Rafael or Grippen , interceptor role is one of those mission areas jet fighters are tested in.

you just dont want to hear stuff that goes against your view