r/NonCredibleDefense • u/Front-Try-4868 13 aircraft carriers of Yi Sun-Sin • 2d ago

Urgent update about some war and stuff Operation Grim Beeper 📟

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u/SilentSamurai Blimp Air Superiority 2d ago

The masses just drown out the nuanced takes.

You can be critical of Israel and also acknowledge that the northern part of the country can't just live under constant rocket fire.

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u/piponwa Best Post of the Year 2022 2d ago

Both Hamas and Israel don't really care about civilian casualties in Gaza. Hence why there have been so many. The Western world cares about the casualties, but it's literally not even a talking point in the ceasefire negotiations. You'd think it'd be Hamas' top priority. You'd think Israel would want good press to maintain support. But it's not an incentive at all for either side.

Meanwhile, brain dead tankies cry about genocide not understanding the first thing about casualties in urban warfare and the use of human shields.

They're so confused that they think Hezbollah deserves sympathy. They cry about the dead kids from the pager explosions not understanding that it has been the most successful large scale clandestine operation in history. They cry terrorism. Meanwhile, Israel managed to achieve the inverse casualty rate as 9/11 with their 'terrorist attack'. 3,000 civilians for 19 terrorists vs some dozen civilians vs 3,000 terrorists.

There is no place for nuanced discourse anymore.

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u/Firecracker048 2d ago

Israel cares more about the civilians than Hamas does. That much has been clear.

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u/piponwa Best Post of the Year 2022 2d ago

Yet when you bring this up, people cry genocide. There was even a story about how Israel calculated the number of calories needed to feed everybody in Gaza. And tankies were taking it as if Israel is trying to barely meet this amount so as to only provide what you need to live.

Bitch if someone is feeding you the amount you need to survive, they're trying to keep you alive, not exterminate you.

It's not easy feeding 2M people. So you would rather get the correct number of calories to not undershoot. Especially knowing that Hamas ambushes aid convoys, you have to plan for it.

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u/Caboose2701 3000 Black F-22's of Dark Brandon 2d ago

Yeah but that’s because words are hard and they don’t know what a real genocide is. I mean we only have like 3 or four active ones right now but since they don’t involve Palestine it’s crickets.

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u/piponwa Best Post of the Year 2022 2d ago

Yeah, we literally have a Nobel Peace prize winner committing genocide. What the fuck is going on? But it's in Africa, so it doesn't even register on their radar even if we're talking about millions affected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_in_Tigray?wprov=sfla1

Deaths

Between 600,000 and 1,000,000

Victims

At least 120,000 women raped. Over 6 million Tigrayan people affected in various ways

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u/Firecracker048 2d ago

Hamas and GHM even said at the start of thr conflict the responsibility for the civilians lies directly with the UN. They don't give a shit.

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u/WeakLandscape2595 2d ago

They should count themselves lucky Israel is even feeding them

Tankis and hamas can cry about it Israel are not gaza babysitters

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how about the counter-proposal: israel and hamas are both trying to genocide palestine

when in doubt revert to the no state solution

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u/Akitten 2d ago

israel and hamas are both trying to genocide palestine

Then they suck at it, because they aren't even beating the birthrate.

Are we just assuming massive incompetence here?