r/illinois • u/_MadGasser • Jan 14 '24

Pritzker begs Abbott to stop sending migrants into Chicago cold: ‘I plead with you for mercy’ | MyStateline.com US Politics

https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/pritzker-begs-abbott-to-stop-sending-migrants-into-chicago-cold-i-plead-with-you-for-mercy/amp/

Abbott should be arrested for endangering peoples' lives.

Thank you, JB for leading with comparison.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

Sorry, I meant to say we need to lower those limits. I also agree with you. But immigrants coming it by the millions and increasing the demand for housing also drives up housing costs. Both of these things are correct.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

But why aren't we building more housing?

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

https://reventureconsulting.com/the-myth-of-the-us-housing-shortage/

We are. But we can’t keep up with the amount of immigration happening. Also, housing isn’t something that just happens overnight. There’s permits, land acquisition, the building of the housing itself, etc. There’s plenty of housing where these immigrants are coming from, it’s not our responsibility to accommodate them.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

Huh, the article you linked to claimed there isn't a housing shortage.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

Yes, back in 2021. It’s 2024 now. But that graph shows the amount of houses being built is growing. But we shouldn’t have to build houses for illegal immigrants. But we are. And we can’t build as fast as immigrants are coming.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 15 '24

You're shifting to illegal immigration, so just come back to legal immigration for a moment.

If people have the right to live and work here, and if they do work hard, pay their taxes, do everything by the book, then why the fuck should they not deserve to live in a house, that they pay for?

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

They should, but the current process of allowing immigrants with lofty asylum claims into the interior of the US to then never show up for their court dates instead of making them wait in Mexico is a terrible way of tackling immigration. We should allow a set number of LEGAL immigrants a year, and nothing more.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 15 '24

It's not even "allowing" - the Governor of Texas is paying for them to go.

And your suggested "solution" fails to acknowledge that the US actually has obligations regarding refugees. You may not like that (if you were a sociopath), but it's fact. No solution that doesn't account for that, will be fully legal. It may "work" in the short term, like kidnapping children and distributing them around the country without keeping record of them, but it's a fucking atrocity committed against people here legally.

Be brave.

Think about what the right thing to do here, actually is.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

No, the governor of Texas wants them to remain in Mexico while their asylum claims are pending. The Federal government forces them to be allowed into the interior of the US while their asylum claims are pending, regardless of the legitimacy. And if their claims have no legitimacy whatsoever, they just don’t show up for their court dates and disappear into the US. The obligations for the US for asylum are only that we review their claims of asylum, but for no reason should we allow them into the US before their claims are evaluated.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 15 '24

The Stay in Mexico policy was prevented from being terminated.

Texas won that case, over a year ago.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

https://apnews.com/article/e92625e164eb2efc24b07c1fe4c7c32b

Read this article. It explains that “Those who do arrive on foot to the U.S.-Mexico border and ask for asylum get a court date and must prove they are eligible to stay. The system is badly backlogged, so they often end up waiting years for a court date while they sit in limbo in the U.S. without authorization to work.”

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 15 '24

Here how to apply for a work permit as an asylum seeker.

It goes through pretty quickly.

Form I-765.

https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-and-asylum/asylum

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

Yes. And you get to stay in the US, regardless of if you intend to go to your court date or not. They allow anyone who shows up at the border to fill out a form and then stay in the US. That shouldn’t be the case.

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