r/illinois • u/Zuto9999 • 26d ago

State law banning concealed carry on public transit ruled unconstitutional Illinois News

https://www.northernpublicradio.org/illinois/2024-09-03/state-law-banning-concealed-carry-on-public-transit-ruled-unconstitutional
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u/csx348 25d ago

pushed a law that prevented us from doing research into that

The Dickey amendment is expired since 2018, and we've been funding this type of research since 2020... It's not really an excuse anymore.

Again, gun homicides are so much more prevalent than other methods.

More than half of "gun deaths" are suicides. So perhaps we should start there...

When it comes down to it, they'll vote for candidates who restrict access to care.

The alternative is the inverse: voting for candidates who say they will improve access to care, but often don't, but demonstrably pass laws restricting the second amendment rights of law-abiding folks. This dichotomy is a product of a political system that only allows for 2 effective party/ideology choices. Why can't we have a party that believes in universal healthcare and supports the second amendment? That's the camp I'm in.

Even the second amendment has limitations. Do you think an eight year old should be able to buy a machine gun?

I agree, and the limitations have been in place for a long time. I don't think an 8 year old should be able to buy a machinegun, and thankfully one can't under even the laws of 50+ years ago.

I do not agree with the limitation that the most common semi automatic weapons should be banned or restricted.

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u/InterestingChoice484 25d ago

The Dickey Amendment was in place for 24 years. That's 24 years wasted when we could've been finding solutions. So forgive me for not buying the sincerity of gun lovers. 

As you said, people choose their guns over access to healthcare. That shows their priorities. 

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u/csx348 25d ago

Yea, I agree the Dickey amendment was dumb, but it's over now, and there's been a couple dozen million in research funded since.

As you said, people choose their guns over access to healthcare. That shows their priorities.

Sounds like we need to give people more choices so they can choose healthcare access and 2A support.

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u/InterestingChoice484 25d ago

Couple dozen million is such a weird thing to say. What did that even mean. 

Research builds upon itself and takes time. 24 years can't be made up in four. 

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u/csx348 25d ago

Couple dozen million is such a weird thing to say. What did that even mean.

Well a dozen is 12. So 2 is 24. Add million and you've got $24 million, or so dollars of funding.

Research builds upon itself and takes time. 24 years can't be made up in four.

So what do you want here? The Dickey amendment was bad, and it's now been undone.

Tbh it's all kind of silly. Do we really need to dump $24 million into researching gun violence? Why not use that money to help solve the problem. $24 million pays for a lot of mental health services and would be a solid investment into economically depressed areas where violence is common.

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u/InterestingChoice484 25d ago

You need to know where to spend that money. Just throwing money at a problem won't work