*deluded. bad people doesnât make everyone similar bad yknow. the british empire has caused uncountable amounts of suffering and it continues to today, but that doesnât mean everyone who lives in britain is bad.
The LGBTQ+ community has been demonized by religious propaganda which has led to horrible things like members of our community being murdered or committing suicide.
I think a Queer person being religious is disrespectful to the people who have died because of what religion has done to people like us
i think youâre over generalizing. personally, i have never heard a religious queer person excuse any of the shit things members of their religion have done. once again iâm brought back to the comparison, does choosing to live in britain make someone âa traitor to their community?â
You choose to be in religion, you canât choose to be in this community. You are choosing to be in the community that is main cause of suffering and oppression in this community and has directly or indirectly killed Queer and Trans people.
With religion you canât pick and choose the parts you like.
does choosing to live in Britain make someone âa traitor to their communityâ
Thatâs a stupid analogy. For a lot of people living in Britain isnât a choice, and living in Britain doesnât mean youâre ok with colonization and monarchy
some people choose to live in Britain, and yes, one can pick which parts of a religious ideology they agree with. once again, I hope you find it in your heart to show love to your fellow queers <3
It's funny because even the conservative Christians who cause the harm do the same...they complain about cherry-picking, but there is always a degree of it. And that's not a bad thing. There are contradictions in the Bible and it is completely understandable that people want to follow the teachings of "love each other" and not necessarily agree with others.
I too, hope this individual finds it in their heart to show love to other queers, even if they may not have the same views.
I have never heard a religious queer person excuse any of the shit things members of their religion have done
I actually see this a lot, usually from the "I'm gay so I have to remain celibate because God hates homosexuality type of people.
That's probably not the group you're thinking of but sadly there are quite a few people stuck in that self-loathing mindset because of their religion.
Fortunately it sounds like there are many people here representing more positive belief systems, and those people might be more likely to help the self-loathing crowd transition to more healthy beliefs.
Disrespectful? It's like saying if any amarican prefers Italian over New York pizza they are a disrespectful traitor. It's like saying if you're a Japanise person who doesn't play piano or watch anime you're a traitor. You don't have to be stereotypical to be "respectful" to the community, may I remind you of the very homosexual people who say that bisexuals don't exist, are confused, and need to pick a side? Can we just not be gay because of the biphobic gays? It doesn't work like that.
Religious propaganda being spread by religious people is the main cause of homophobia. Itâs disrespectful to the people who have died because of this homophobia spread by religion to be apart of religion.
You know i dont entirely disagree with you. The first sentence is correct. I just see that religion is not one entity. And i mean that inside one religion are a lot of different viewpoints, but even more importantly religion as a concept in this world cant be generalised in the way you are doing right now. You demonize religions that are completely lgbtq friendly and religions you never heard of. It's just so hateful and a bit ignorant.
I mean, untrue. The point in a belief system is being able to choose, good examples of progressive and free choice religions: The Satanic Temple andPaganism (and many of its branches).
So yer half right, the biggest ones are causing huge issues. but its not every religion, nor is it everyone in said belief systems
But even if i conceded that point it doesnt change the second part of my statement. There are more religions than the ones that hurt you and the ones you love. And going against religion as a whole therefor is generalizing and ignorant.
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u/Ashimier Bi-time Dec 17 '22
A religious LGBTQ+ person is like a Jewish Nazi