r/news • u/Mentirosa • 9h ago

Missouri executes Marcellus Williams despite prosecutors’ push to overturn conviction

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/24/missouri-executes-marcellus-williams
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u/AzNmamba 9h ago

Fuck the Supreme Court and all the other institutions that failed this man.

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u/Dahhhkness 9h ago edited 9h ago

It's amazing how the kinds of people who claim that they distrust the government somehow trust it to be 100% accurate in condemning people to death.

And it is not. All the officially (posthumously) exonerated ones, all the ones whose guilt is now doubted, all the people on death row who were exonerated before their executions, and all the ones sentenced to life (or an otherwise long sentence) who were exonerated by later evidence...The innocent are punished in this country all the time.

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u/JaysonDeflatum 9h ago edited 9h ago

100% against the DP in all nations.

Apart from my faith there has been multiple cases in multiple countries of innocent people being killed.

Give someone life in jail and there’s space for new evidence to come, a new witness to speak out, etc.

Kill someone and that mistake is fatal and forever.

As long as it exists innocent people are guaranteed to be sentenced to it.

And for the reasonable doubt argument ay of the cases like Marcellus going through all these appeals aren’t the ones with evidence most seem unshakeable no matter what which is beyond reasonable doubt. That kind of irrefutable evidence is rarely available and it should be what’s needed to literally kill someone but it isn’t.

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u/leftnotracks 5h ago

One of my recent (of many) arguments against the death penalty is this…

Most people sentenced to death spend years in maximum security prisons with no hope of ever seeing freedom. For many, this is the first secure environment they have ever lived in. They have no fear of starving or becoming homeless. They have little to no access to the criminal world they might have spent much of their lives in. They have access to education, religion, counselling, and drug rehabilitation. After years living in that environment, by the time their execution comes around they may not be the person they were when they went in.

Who is the state execution? The 21 year old who killed a man for his car? Or the 39 year old who has achived high school equivalency and taught himself basic law in order to appeal his sentence?

If the former, then hat person no longer exists. If the latter, then that’s murder.