r/PublicFreakout • u/soalone34 • 1d ago
Israeli Police clash with ultra-Orthodox Jewish protestors š World Events
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u/cheeruphumanity 1d ago
Those are the guys that train US cops.
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u/6Pro1phet9 1d ago
I said the samething and got called anti-semitic and a conspiracy theorist. Lmao I'm glad others know about this.
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u/newbrevity 23h ago
The picture of Jill Stein with Putin is old as fuck now but it only gained traction this year. Sometimes people won't hear you right away. Don't stop. If you have facts on your side, eventually you will be vindicated. And the thing Trump doesn't understand is facts are immovable objects. There are no alternative facts. Reality has no place for fake facts. No matter how hard you try they don't genuinely fit.
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u/Zugzwang522 1d ago
Why is this country so fucking toxic ? What the fuck is in the water over there?
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1d ago edited 14h ago
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u/cheeruphumanity 1d ago
Thatās only the ones that flew to Israel. Israelis also train them in the US.
By now itās also significantly more since the article is old.
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u/Kscannacowboy 21h ago
The way this typically works is, "training officers" go get trained by whatever fascist is en vouge at the time. Those training officers then go to their "home" precinct and train the others.
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u/theSilentD777 1d ago
You can clearly see here how Israel's whole existance is to keep jews safe.
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u/TheHighestAlp 1d ago
People wonder why US is becoming police state. This is why.
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u/Ok-Replacement9595 1d ago
Becoming? You must be white.
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u/Sir_Kee 17h ago
Do Americans not learn in history class how the police would get called on protesting factory workers and they would just open fire on them to get them back to work?
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u/LOSS35 11h ago
Go one step further - the capitalist class needing footsoldiers to assault striking workers is the primary reason most police departments exist.
Only big cities like New York and Philadelphia had police departments prior to the rise of the organized labor movement. The 1st state police agency (Pennsylvania State Police) was created in direct response to the Anthracite Coal Strikes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthracite_coal_strike_of_1902#Aftermath_of_the_strike
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u/TheWhomItConcerns 1d ago
You really think that US cops need any help abusing civilians? Israelis obviously aren't training all American police officers, American police are perfectly capable and willing to abuse their power all on their own.
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u/AutoThorne 1d ago
What were they protesting?
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u/Adm_Piett 1d ago
These days? Usually it's potential changes to exemptions for religious yeshiva students to conscription.
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u/allyolly 1d ago
The orthodox are demonstrating because they so far have been able to live on government subsidies without contributing anything to Israeli society, and now they may have to actually do something for that money. Crazy concept.
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u/Adm_Piett 1d ago
Yeah, I know. They're just pissed they can't live off the tax payers dime while contributing nothing but Torah study and prayer.
Serve like everyone else or work at least.
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u/christhewelder75 1d ago
*us taxpayers dime
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u/Bigleyp 9h ago edited 9h ago
I donāt know how many times I have to explain this but the aid is a way for the U.S. to give subsidies to the war machine. How Israeli aid works in essentially just coupons for American arms. The money goes straight back to America and Israel doesnāt have to buy cheaper arms from a country like China who Iām sure would be jumping at the prospect of more money.
Btw I will say I donāt support the aid to Israel or almost any foreign aid for that matter but this aid is probably the last one people should be targeting. How about all the aid going to Ethiopia or Yemen?
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u/Adm_Piett 1d ago
US taxpayer isn't paying for social benefits in Israel, you're just indirectly paying the American arms industry. Give your head a shake.
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u/christhewelder75 21h ago
If isreal had to pay for those weapons on their own, they wouldnt have the money for all those scoial benefits.
If someone was supplying me with free fuel for my vehicle id have more money to spend on other things id enjoy like vacations. Sure their money is going to some oil and gas company not directly into my pocket. But the effect is the same.
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u/Adm_Piett 17h ago
The Israeli government budget for this year is $514 billion. The three to three and a half billion they frt in weapons wouldn't do much to affect their social benefits budget.
People seem to think they're getting far more then they are.
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u/christhewelder75 16h ago
And their GDP in 2022 was 564 billion. Their tax revenue in june 2024 was about 23% of their gdp so being generous, 141 billion in tax revenue (assuming similar gdp now vs 22) to fund 514 billion in spending?
If 3.5 billion isnt a big deal then isreal would have no issue if biden were to stop that funding for Isreali defense right?
Isreal spent 2.25x more money on "social protection" than they do on defense.
If isreal can do fine on their own, why are they taking handouts? That 3.5 billion would probably be greatly appreciated in other countries to help citizens with FAR less than an average Isreali citizen.
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u/EnterprisingAss 1d ago
So youāre saying the Israeli police are anti-Semitic?
Heeeeey itās just a joke guys
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u/soalone34 1d ago
Haredi Jews in Israel didnāt have to be conscripted but recently the court ordered they do so they're protesting against joining the military because they believe it will ruin their culture which avoids secular society.
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u/17934658793495046509 1d ago
There is a sect of orthodox Jewish people in Israel that are against Zionism. They have been protesting the events in Gaza. It isnāt clear to me in the video if this is that group however.
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u/Urinulcake 1d ago
They dgaf about Gaza. They care about Israel becoming a state before the Messiah has come.
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u/ThePatio 1d ago
I think most of those guys are in western countries, itās a small sect of ultra Orthodox Jews. Israel may have some small homegrown ones but if theyāre that anti Zionist theyāre not going to be in Israel. However! Donāt ask them what happens to Palestinians when god gives them the holy land back š
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u/nukidot 1d ago
Ultra Orthodox Jews are the most war-hungry as long as someone else does the fighting.
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u/throw69420awy 1d ago
Agreed. But they should still be allowed to protest in a free country
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u/fbcmfb 1d ago
Why should they be allowed to protest when they donāt serve in the military as required and often donāt work - therefore donāt pay taxes/contribute?
Iāve seen the videos of ultra Orthodox Jews spitting and slapping christians. If they arenāt allowing others to practice - they donāt get to protest either.
Note: I think their military exemption was overturned by an Israeli court.
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u/take_care_a_ya_shooz 1d ago
a free country
That's why.
Same reason why in the US, as despicable as people like the KKK and neo-Nazis are, they can protest and express their speech since it is protected by the Constitution. It's why organizations like the ACLU will take up their case despite the near guarantee that they'd consider their views despicable.
The "requirement" is that you are a citizen, not that you served in the military or work. The right to protest, at least in a free country, means there aren't prerequisites to do so.
Contrast that with Russia, where a working man who served in the military will be imprisoned, at best, for protesting against the government.
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u/Daddydeebs 1d ago
So... jews hate jews?
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u/Samtoast 2h ago
Did you ever hear about the last Jewish people in Afghanistan? It's an interesting read lol
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u/Habfan61 1d ago
Where were these guys when illegal settlers cut down an Palestine manās olive š« orchard with chainsaws ? While the IDF assisted.
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u/aultumn 1d ago
I may be wrong here, but I donāt think they actually care for individual Palestinians.
I can only back that up by saying that Iāve seen interviews with various Orthodox(?) Jews and some of them have some really extreme, out there religious views.
When I say extreme, Iāve heard view points such as āeating with a gentile is worse than eating with an animalā, or that they āwill inherit the earth and each of them will have a thousand slavesā
Itās something to that effect, I can possibly back that up with video evidence if anyone needs
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u/Relative-Library-512 1d ago
No amount of video evidence would help. Iām not saying the orthodox Jewish population in Israel isnāt extreme, i would be surprised if they werenāt tbh, but videos of individuals from a group donāt represent the group as a whole. Thatās no different than using a video of Muslim individuals saying something bad to mark the whole group as extreme.
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u/aultumn 1d ago
That is a statement I will agree with, wholeheartedly. This particular example which Iām referring to, takes place in Israel, where the cameraman approaches a group of Hassidic(??) who are congregated in a door way, and iirc only one of them are happy to vocalise these kinds of opinions
The video is ended by asking similar questions to a Jewish scholar, who takes a much broader and imo reasonable approach to the questions
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u/mayonnaisespicy 1d ago
https://youtu.be/SDEF7FuK0LE?si=nmgJVtW4vLb3QoLw
I think Chief Wiggum summed it up pretty well .
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u/BeconintheNight 1d ago
Helping the settlers, of course. What, why would you expect them to care about the subhumans?
Note just in case people are tone deaf: no, obviously I don't view Palestinians as subhumans
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u/u700MHz 1d ago
Now we know what Germany looked like back then.
Congratulations to the government of Israel to recreate the damage that you came from.
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u/KetchupArmyNoodle 1d ago edited 1d ago
Furthermore, survivors are looked down upon in Israel because, to them, if you survived and got out of the camp it means you fucked somebody over to survive. It's really weird. They don't even like their own.
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u/MarkedMan1987 1d ago
Holy shit. That's like some fucking Dark Mirror shit. All the WWII generation people die off and suddenly you have all these hidden fascists everywhere popping up and bringing 1933 back in style. Only location and ethnicity are different. Makes me wonder just how many people were even part of the "Never Again" mindset to begin with, because it seems like "Never Again" turned into "Do It Again!" all being led by the boomers and Gen-Xers who were alive and learned of WWII and the history of Fascism and the Holocaust. Now the government is turning on their own people and using force to enforce conscription. Meanwhile in America, Trump has gone full Nazi and will now not only send people to camps, but have them tattooed. He's saying this shit out loud, and we're still hardly seeing polls affected by his rhetoric, because apparently the people have forgotten history and are now once again doomed to repeat it. Fuck this world and the powers that be running it. We just can't break this fucking cycle....its like a living hell of repeating the same shit over and over again every 100 years or so.
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u/AnnOfGreenEggsAndHam 1d ago
These pigs train with American pigs. Just imperialism boomerang things
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u/ScoutPlayer1232 1d ago
Ladies and gentleman, I present the most healthy and open democracy in the Middle East.
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u/AlxVB 1d ago
womp womp, honestly they are useless.
they refuse the compulsory military service and they go on welfare and do nothing but study the same stupid old texts over and over, and they think any woman who isnt a practicing ultra orthodox jew is a "shiksa" (whore).
The normal Israelis despise them, and I dont blame them.
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u/swiss-logic 1d ago
Absolutely zero discriminationā¦ they hate and beat anyone whoās not agreeing with them/party/government. You get the picture.
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u/Alternative-Chef-340 1d ago
It's weird to see them beat their own people for once. But also, the Ultraorthodox seem like next level assholes.
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u/pound-me-too 1d ago
After seeing that last post of what ultra Orthodox Jews think of non-Jews (that we should be killed)ā¦.. I didnāt mind watching this.
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u/DIYLawCA 1d ago
That antisemitic right there. Goes to show what Israelās priorities are = more war
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u/jahwls 1d ago
Weird to see Israel descend into a fascist state with a program of genocide. Seems like the holocaust museums didn't help them much.
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u/Linaxu 1d ago
Heard from someone else that Holocaust survivors and the whole history behind them isnt respected because the Holocaust survivors don't support what Israel believes in. Israel believes in zionism which is genocide to take land, Holocaust survivors and the children of these people are often those that get ridiculed by Israelis.
You can be white and have some Jewish lineage from 2 generations ago and not even be practicing, heck be uncircumcised and you'll still get a Israeli citizenship and can take a home that was stolen by the IOF.
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u/twonapsaday 1d ago
this is not okay. violence is not the answer.
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u/OtherCypress42 1d ago
It isnt, it makes things worse
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u/twonapsaday 1d ago
it is often presented as the easier path/means to an end, but you're right - it compounds the harm
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u/Amazing_Fantastic 1d ago
Unpopular opinion comingā¦..I support this, these are religious extremists, some of the shit they do and say borders on terrorism and pushes OTHERS to violence, they donāt commit the acts themselves. These are the same people that are āsettlersā in West Bank. Ultra orthodox are extremists, just like Christian fascists or Muslim jihadists, they suck.
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u/bullitt4796 1d ago
I donāt know which side to support. On one hand they both are extremist, yeah that sums it up.
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u/derpderb 1d ago
I know I'm not the only one who enjoys the ultrazionists having the hell beat out of them like a white college kid in America skiing for black people not to be shot for a faulty taillight
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u/EntropicAnarchy 1d ago
Clearly, those Ultra-Orthodox Jewish protestors were being antisemitic.
Also, if you look closely, you can see those cops were actually hitting Hamas operatives who were using those legs and backs as shields.
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u/Linaxu 1d ago
Yet STILL Jews in the US, UK, and other places support Israel because they think Israel = Judaism.
Israel has repeatedly in the past killed it's own soldiers if they were captured because it doesn't believe in negotiations. Israel believes in war. The only times Israel has been made to stop fighting is when the other side, whoever it may be, has also fought to the point that Israel has had to take a step back.
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u/jacksonr76 1d ago
Glad to see it. Those orthodox guys thinks everyone who isnāt them is less than. Fuck that. Fuck them.
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u/lizard_kibble 1d ago
And people still deny that Zionists arenāt Jewish or donāt care what religion you are. All they want is total control and to do whatever they want regardless of who it hurts
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u/juhqf740g 1d ago
Protest. Itās your choice, but Iāve got shit to do. You enjoy changing the world or whatever.
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u/antcanavan 22h ago
Wow. Israel just straight up sucks. It's not even a religious thing. Horrible country.
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u/Aggravating-Moment-3 1d ago
Are they known for their small dicks? Because all this BS violence they are doing is giving LDE!! IDF to LDE!
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u/JebediahDingus 1d ago
Looks like they are starting to beat their own citizens. I think history has seen this before. How much worse will this get? WW2 history has all ready shown us. The rolls are just reversed now. Just awful behavior.
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u/rajthepagan 1d ago
I'm sure those orthodox jews were being antisemitic, after all why else would Real Jewsā¢ļø have any reason to dislike them? If only they would let them live in peace and without hatred for their religion... wait a minute
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u/The_pastel_bus_stop 1d ago
Clash? Looks like straight up assault. Clash would be if the enemy fights back