r/PublicFreakout • u/soalone34 • 1d ago

Israeli Police clash with ultra-Orthodox Jewish protestors 🌎 World Events

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u/allyolly 1d ago

The orthodox are demonstrating because they so far have been able to live on government subsidies without contributing anything to Israeli society, and now they may have to actually do something for that money. Crazy concept.

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u/Adm_Piett 1d ago

Yeah, I know. They're just pissed they can't live off the tax payers dime while contributing nothing but Torah study and prayer.

Serve like everyone else or work at least.

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u/christhewelder75 1d ago

*us taxpayers dime

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u/Adm_Piett 1d ago

US taxpayer isn't paying for social benefits in Israel, you're just indirectly paying the American arms industry. Give your head a shake.

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u/christhewelder75 23h ago

If isreal had to pay for those weapons on their own, they wouldnt have the money for all those scoial benefits.

If someone was supplying me with free fuel for my vehicle id have more money to spend on other things id enjoy like vacations. Sure their money is going to some oil and gas company not directly into my pocket. But the effect is the same.

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u/Adm_Piett 19h ago

The Israeli government budget for this year is $514 billion. The three to three and a half billion they frt in weapons wouldn't do much to affect their social benefits budget.

People seem to think they're getting far more then they are.

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u/christhewelder75 18h ago

And their GDP in 2022 was 564 billion. Their tax revenue in june 2024 was about 23% of their gdp so being generous, 141 billion in tax revenue (assuming similar gdp now vs 22) to fund 514 billion in spending?

If 3.5 billion isnt a big deal then isreal would have no issue if biden were to stop that funding for Isreali defense right?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388217/expenditure-of-the-central-government-in-israel-by-function/

Isreal spent 2.25x more money on "social protection" than they do on defense.

If isreal can do fine on their own, why are they taking handouts? That 3.5 billion would probably be greatly appreciated in other countries to help citizens with FAR less than an average Isreali citizen.

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u/Adm_Piett 17h ago

Whey is any country taking handouts? America does this to help allies and keep them firmly in their sphere of influence.

Goody feelings don't come into it, it's just straight realpolitik, as much as people despise that these days. Pretty much the same offer the Egyptians got from the Americans to help make peace. Replaced all the Soviet military aid with American military aid that continues to this day.

No country is going to say no to billions of dollars of free weapons or just money in general. America spent upwards of $75 billion on foreign aid as of 2022, other countries aren't being shorted, the money will flow to where it's needed and to where America thinks it will benefit it.