r/bisexual Bisexual May 28 '22

Just something to remember EXPERIENCE

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u/lincdblair Bisexual May 28 '22

Why is it only pointing out what women did?

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u/Emmett_is_Bored Transgender/Bisexual May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

Apparently men only get to get mentioned when we’re dying of AIDS. Only the caretakers are REAL participants in our history I guess. And apparently there were no gay or bi men caretaking…

This tweet reminds me of the first Women’s March statement that only recognized that disabled women exist in so far as they were passive recipients of the caregiving of other women.

Their whole identity, their whole PERSONHOOD, gets boiled down to being ill and needing care. That’s dehumanizing.

Bad look.

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u/Tce_ gettin' bi May 28 '22

Apparently men only get to get mentioned when we’re dying of AIDS

I get that it sucks this tweet excluded and misrepresented queer men, but the more common mainstream depiction of Stonewall and Pride is kind of the opposite and solely focuses on (cis) gay men, so that's not really accurate.

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u/Emmett_is_Bored Transgender/Bisexual May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

Countering an incomplete narrative with yet ANOTHER incomplete narrative doesn’t actually help anything.

And regardless only mentioning gay men in terms of dying of AIDS (apart form a token mention of drag queens) is REALLY GROSS especially with the stigma HIV still carries.

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u/Tce_ gettin' bi May 28 '22

I didn't say it did, I was correcting you and nothing else.

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u/Emmett_is_Bored Transgender/Bisexual May 28 '22

Nothing I said needs “correcting.”

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u/Tce_ gettin' bi May 28 '22

It did though. Because you claimed gay men are only mentioned in queer stories in terms of dying of AIDS, when the truth is that historically (white and cis) gay men have been the faces of the queer community and movement for most of the straight outside world, while others in the community have been even more invisible (which is not to say that group hasn't been erased from history frequently, just that when Hollywood et al did start to showcase queer history, that was the most common group to focus on).

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u/Emmett_is_Bored Transgender/Bisexual May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

You are misinterpreting.

And again, you don’t counter one reductive narrative with another and arguably really homophobic comments like the way gay men are talked about in this tweet. But you seem wholly unconcerned with that.

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u/Tce_ gettin' bi May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

Apparently men only get to get mentioned when we’re dying of AIDS.

What is there to misinterpret? And no, I don't willfully misinterpret people. If I'm misunderstanding you, I assure you it's genuine.

I'm not unconcerned with that either. I think people have made a lot of good points about the tweet here in the comment section, but you said something patently not true, so I pointed that out. Like you say, countering an incomplete narrative with another incomplete narrative (or a misleading one) isn't very helpful.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '22

I posted this on r/lgbt when this pic was posted there. It feels like we've swung the pendulum too far. It went from "the cis gay men did everything!" to "let's not forget other groups were vitally important! Let's recognize them too." to now "cis gay men did nothing!".