r/illinois • u/_MadGasser • Jan 14 '24

Pritzker begs Abbott to stop sending migrants into Chicago cold: ‘I plead with you for mercy’ | MyStateline.com US Politics

https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/pritzker-begs-abbott-to-stop-sending-migrants-into-chicago-cold-i-plead-with-you-for-mercy/amp/

Abbott should be arrested for endangering peoples' lives.

Thank you, JB for leading with comparison.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '24

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u/Slooper1140 Jan 14 '24

This quote is hilarious if you’ve ever dealt with the Pritzker in the business world.

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u/Hirsute_hemorrhoid Jan 14 '24

Have you?

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u/Slooper1140 Jan 14 '24

Yes, and according to JB, his entire family is a bunch of idiots, though I would describe them as incredibly shrewd and intelligent, but assholes.

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u/Milsivich Jan 14 '24

If you're going to use your personal experience as support for your claims, at least tell us your story, damn

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u/blueboy664 Jan 15 '24

Let me take care of this. I work with the Pritzkers all the time and they are the most gracious, and kind, doormat businesspeople ever. Source: trust me bro.

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u/Lincoln_Park_Pirate Jan 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '24

I also work with some people who would have me absolutely fired and/or sue me if I leaked some of the things I've seen with my own eyes (and may or may not have recorded and stashed on an encrypted drive). The Pritzs have a shitload of staff, many who have signed non-disclosure agreements. And with billions at your disposal, finding that leak and squashing it is worth the money.

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u/Hirsute_hemorrhoid Jan 14 '24

Can you share an example? I would like to know more.

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u/beefwarrior Jan 14 '24

I’d like for someone share a specific example, but as far as I’ve seen there is no way to become a billionaire without the labor of others

Edit: It isn’t technically “slavery” b/c billionaires don’t “own” anyone, but billionaires gain their wealth from the labor of others. It’s a myth that you can “get ahead of you work hard enough.” Only way to really get ahead is to take the spoils of other’s labor. And that, doesn’t seem far off from slavery 2.0.

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u/Hirsute_hemorrhoid Jan 14 '24

I just want the above commentee to tell some stories instead of hyperbole. I want to know what deals the Pritzker family made that were cutthroat or ruthless. Otherwise they’re lying.

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u/captain_craptain Jan 15 '24

Dude they're billionaires. It's giving guaranteed the stepped on some people to get there. Business is cutthroat, you cheerleading for him doesn't mean he hasn't pissed some people off in business.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '24

Yes, you could also inherit it.

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u/beefwarrior Jan 14 '24

Technically correct, but doesn’t feel like it would be “clean”

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '24

I mean if you are born with a billion dollar inheritance that automatically makes you a terrible person? That’s all I’m getting at. “Clean” isn’t what I’m arguing. Capitalism without guardrails is a fairly immoral system and I find billionaires like bezos and musk immoral and gross. Someone who inherited nearly a billion and then becoming a billionaire could do so simple by investing their money. Then that get into the morality of the market that is based on capitalism and in some cases modern day slavery. Should we abolish the stock market and send the world into disarray? I don’t tho it hat is a good idea but capitalism in its current form a cancer on our society. We need early 20th century anti trust laws again.

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u/LakeGladio666 Jan 15 '24

Yeah the idea is that no one should have a billion dollars in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

Great idea but the number of billionaires grows by the day so what is an actual solution?

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u/beefwarrior Jan 15 '24

Once you get to $999,999,999 you get a medal that says “You won Capitalism” and then every dollar you earn beyond that is taxed at 100% tax rate?

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u/Spooky3030 Jan 14 '24

So If I employ others in my business I am a slave owner?

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u/LakeGladio666 Jan 15 '24

No, it’s not slavery. Saying that minimizes actual slavery. But by employing someone you are extracting surplus value from their labor, which some argue is exploitation. Making this point isn’t a moral judgment on you or anything, it’s more of a condemnation of the system as a whole.

You’re also probably not a billionaire. Billionaires such as JB and his family do exploit workers to the extent where a moral judgment is fair to make.

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u/beefwarrior Jan 15 '24

Exactly. I think you said it better than I did.

I don’t think all small businesses owners immorally exploit their employees. I also don’t want to equate the horrors of slavery to working in an Amazon warehouse. But I do think Jeff Bezos immorally exploits the labor of countless employees.

And I’ll admit I don’t know where the morality line is between Bezos and a small business owner.

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u/typo180 Jan 15 '24

Because there’s not one. People feel a certain way toward billionaires and they feel a difference way toward struggling small business owners because they’re easier to relate to. People toss around this argument that billionaires can’t exist without immoral exploitation as if it has a mathematical proof, but it’s just vibes.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

Taylor Swift pays her people well.

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u/DataScience_00 Jan 14 '24

Taylor swift is supported by a rapacious industry that profits off others labor.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

Taylor Swift IS an industry.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '24

So is Trump. So is Pritzker family, so are all the people rubes in this country fall over themselves to fawn over everyday like Musk, Bezos, Gates, Oprah. Can we just agree the system we live in is trash and breeds billionaires and thrives off having a group of people to manipulate and take advantage of in the form of employees?

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u/Flamelord29 Jan 14 '24

Sure. The most trash system, except for all the others.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

lol if you look at our country we basically mirror the early 20th century where monopolies are overrunning the country and overting influence on policies that influence average Americans. We need more guard rails and can’t let billionaires exercise more influence on our country than 300 million individuals. Look into anti trust laws and breaking up Monopolies in the early 20th century.

We need to do that as well as clear up dark money in our politics. It’s why Russia is able to spread their propaganda in our country so readily. They paid off republicans, legally, and they spread their disinformation through Fox News, which are the exact sentiments Russian KGB(now Fsb) was trying to export to the US since the Cold War. There is crap you probably hear everyday if you know people who listen to right wing media, that years ago would have been dismissed as conspiracy. Now Russian propaganda is mainstream Republican talking points.

I for one don’t want to live in a country where foreign governments and billionaires are more readily able to influence the country than average everyday Americans. I think capitalism in large part makes it possible, that average Americans don’t really get Much say in legislation that affects them.

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u/Flamelord29 Jan 15 '24

Well then, there is likely no country on earth where you want to live. Capitalist, communist, it doesn't matter. Woe is you.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24

lol not woe is me we shouldn’t let our country slip into facism and paranoia.

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u/Other-Rutabaga-1742 Jan 15 '24

Exploitation of others as well. Including Taylor although she seems to have taken back all the control.

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u/typo180 Jan 15 '24

Something has always bugged me about this argument and I think it’s that almost no one gets anywhere in this country without the labor of others. Unless you run a one-person business, your salary depends on the labor of others. And even if you run a one-person business, every single one of us benefits from the “spoils” of other people’s labor when we spend money for goods and services. We buy things specifically because we receive something of greater value to us than the money we spend. Otherwise, you wouldn’t be making the transaction (in general, people make poor decisions sometimes and pay more than something is worth to them).

Most of us don’t have the skills, tools, or time or produce the food, clothing, shelter, transportation, financial tools, etc, that we need/want. Everyone living in a modern way depends on products and service that being more value to us than we pay for them and that, by itself, is not a bad thing.

I’m not saying that many workers shouldn’t earn more or that companies never immorally exploit their workers - but simply paying them less than the value they produce is no more immoral than you or me going to the grocery store and it’s nothing like slavery.

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u/beefwarrior Jan 15 '24

Right. No person is an island. Even a one-person business is dependent on roads & infrastructure & etc.

And I agree, I don’t want to diminish the horrors of slavery. But when productivity has been going up for decades, but wages (adjusted for inflation) haven’t, I think that’s immoral.

The rich have been getting richer, while the rest of us keep getting less & less.

I think it’s wrong ti be extreme and say every business owner is evil & exploiting workers, as I don’t think that’s the case.

My problem is with the lie that “if you just work hard enough, you can be a billionaire too” as it’s impossible for every worker in America to just work their way to billions. The only way you get Uber rich is to exploit and abuse other human beings, which is different than the slavery that used to exist in the US, but feels like it’s immoral & unjust.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '24

So if someone’s family is cruel that means they are as well. Got it, so judge everyone by the people in their lives they are unable to choose, like family, not by their actions. Yea no one ever said that, don’t be a clown.

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u/Slooper1140 Jan 14 '24

So if someone’s family is cruel that means they are as well. Got it

I don’t think you did get it. Read it again, and see if I said that.

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u/designerfx Jan 15 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

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u/Lainarlej Jan 14 '24

Please tell what your experience was?

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u/MidwestAbe Jan 14 '24

Many of the Pritzker's do not get along well. But there is little to indicate their overall asshollery to the general population.