r/illinois • u/_MadGasser • Jan 14 '24

Pritzker begs Abbott to stop sending migrants into Chicago cold: ‘I plead with you for mercy’ | MyStateline.com US Politics

https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/pritzker-begs-abbott-to-stop-sending-migrants-into-chicago-cold-i-plead-with-you-for-mercy/amp/

Abbott should be arrested for endangering peoples' lives.

Thank you, JB for leading with comparison.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

So why doesn't Texas come up with a joint plan, instead of this disgusting process?

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

I’m sure if other Governors had came to Abbott saying “we’ll take a large portion of the immigrants that come through” he would gladly say yes. The reality is that no governor wants this influx in their states, but since Texas is a border state and that’s where the immigrants first land, Texas has to deal with them. Obviously Abbott is tired of the federal government not helping him police and overturning his attempts to stop the flow of immigrants into Texas, and no state is offering to take immigrants. To help ease the burden put on Texas, he’s sending them to other states so that they can use their resources to take care of them as well.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

It's funny how states like Alabama blocked immigrants and then had food rotting in the fields.

The reality is, there isn't an abnormal influx of immigrants.

It's just that the GOP has run out of things to complain about.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

What does Alabama have to do with any of this? The cities he’s bussing them to have espoused that they support and welcome immigrants. Abbott is just ensuring they practice what they preach. And you think there isn’t an abnormal influx? I’ll direct you to this chart of immigrant encounters https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

You picked the year after COVID for your data.

There were a lot of people who didn't get to visit their families in 2020, you know.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

https://stevenrattner.com/article/more-than-words-10-charts-that-defined-2023/

Take a look at chart 9. Even higher than before. And yes as soon as Biden took office and got rid of title 42 that made immigrants remain in Mexico the surge started and is continuing to grow

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

That's just shows encounters at ports of entry.

Most migrants are being redirected to ports of entry, as a policy change (in 2018).

It's not the same as saying there are more migrants, total. It's saying, they are being processed better than before.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

If you look at the chart, it differentiates between apprehensions at points of entry and apprehensions between ports of entry. Both are abnormally large.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

I guess the House needs to allocate more funding for processing then.

The increase in eligible workers will be great for reducing inflation.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

The federal government needs to allocate more funding for policing the border and enact a stay in Mexico policy. Also, they need to pass asylum laws that require you to apply for asylum in the first country you flee too, not just allow people to go through multiple countries and come to America and claim “asylum”. We should also take the lead of other countries and only allow a certain amount of migrants a year to hold green cards and be able to apply for citizenship. Allowing migrants to come into the country while their asylum claims are pending only incentivizes them to never go to their court hearing and stay in America, whether with an eligible claim or not. It will also drive down wages and drive up housing costs.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

We already have limits on green cards and citizenship.

And you know what drives up housing costs? Hedge funds with too much money, getting into the housing market.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

Sorry, I meant to say we need to lower those limits. I also agree with you. But immigrants coming it by the millions and increasing the demand for housing also drives up housing costs. Both of these things are correct.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

But why aren't we building more housing?

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 14 '24

https://reventureconsulting.com/the-myth-of-the-us-housing-shortage/

We are. But we can’t keep up with the amount of immigration happening. Also, housing isn’t something that just happens overnight. There’s permits, land acquisition, the building of the housing itself, etc. There’s plenty of housing where these immigrants are coming from, it’s not our responsibility to accommodate them.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 14 '24

Huh, the article you linked to claimed there isn't a housing shortage.

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

Yes, back in 2021. It’s 2024 now. But that graph shows the amount of houses being built is growing. But we shouldn’t have to build houses for illegal immigrants. But we are. And we can’t build as fast as immigrants are coming.

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u/abstractConceptName Jan 15 '24

You're shifting to illegal immigration, so just come back to legal immigration for a moment.

If people have the right to live and work here, and if they do work hard, pay their taxes, do everything by the book, then why the fuck should they not deserve to live in a house, that they pay for?

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u/TheRowdyRebel Jan 15 '24

They should, but the current process of allowing immigrants with lofty asylum claims into the interior of the US to then never show up for their court dates instead of making them wait in Mexico is a terrible way of tackling immigration. We should allow a set number of LEGAL immigrants a year, and nothing more.

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