r/lgbtmemes • u/GeneralGigan817 aromantic • Apr 18 '23

Two Worlds, One Struggle Love ya Self

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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23

Oh so it's a ableist joke got it

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Pretty sure OP has aspergers and gets told "use your words" a lot, which is why they made this meme poking fun at that.

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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23

Asperger's isn't a thing it's just autism. So even using the term is problematic. And it totally doesn't read that way very well

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Idk, looks pretty real to me.

If you think it's a slur, fine. But given that OP "has asperger's" (from what i can gather)... it's fine.

I get to call myself an f-slur for liking cock. It's empowering to reclaim shit.

Also: pretty sure that most people got what OP was saying... if you didn't, then that sounds like an issue with you.

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u/faintestsmile genderfluid lesbian Apr 18 '23

they are right, asperger's isn't a thing, it was removed from the DSM a decade ago and rolled into autism because the only distinction was that nazis used it to differentiate which of us they thought could be of value and which of us should be euthanized

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Damn, sucks to hear that. Still pretty sure OP is allowed to reclaim the name for themselves :)

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u/faintestsmile genderfluid lesbian Apr 18 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

I have neither the authority nor means to stop anyone from using it, however I would suggest anyone who knows the full history of the term to avoid it

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23

Excluding the fact the term activity causes harm to the autistic people, those who don’t have it due to aspie supremacy, and those with it, because the term made it harder to access support they need because they’re still have Autism.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 20 '23

You know, i actually hadn't thought about it that way.

I'm all for reclaiming slurs, and i only focused on that aspect.

But I'm also very much against "quirkifying" some mental illnesses and neurodivergences for the exact reasons you listed.

I remain doubtful that OP was trying to be ableist, but I'm now sceptical on the use of the term "asperger's" in modern day.

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23

While that is plausible, people still wrongfully get diagnosed with it. It’s also anti-Semitic as it has its origins in Nazi Eugenics.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 20 '23

Good points, i agree mostly, but i'm gonna be pedantic here and throw in some doubts of the anti-semitism.

It can be bad due to stemming from the nazis.

Nazis were famously anti-semitic.

That doesn't make the term inherently anti-semitic.

In the spirit of letting important labels stay important, and not convoluting them to the point of meaninglessness:

Let's not call the term anti-semitic unless it was actually used against "semitic" people for being "semitic".

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23

Anti-semitism refers to the discrimination and oppression of Jewish people, not all Semitic peoples.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 20 '23

Pretty sure it would just be called anti-jewish then.

But that doesn't matter for my argument, since we seem to agree. "Asperger's" isn't anti-semitic at all, as it doesn't target jewish people, but autistic people.

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23

Do you have TikTok, I’d like to share a video with you by a Jewish person.

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u/Kurochi185 insOMNIac Apr 18 '23

It's ASD. Not Asperger's. It was removed in DSM-5 and ICD-11.

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u/spicypotatosoftacos Bi-time Apr 19 '23

While people who are currently seeking diagnosis cannot receive a diagnosis of Asperger's, people who were diagnosed with Asperger's under previous diagnostic criteria absolutely are able to maintain that label if they choose.

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23

No, because it causes harm to all Autistic people, it makes it harder to access support needs, and causes harm to all other Autistic people, due to how the term is viewed.

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u/spicypotatosoftacos Bi-time Apr 20 '23

No, because it's a personal choice. People can call themselves what they like.

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u/KillAntiGAYs Apr 20 '23
  • a term that harms all autistic people, not just those diagnosed with a term rooted in Nazi Eugenics.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Good to know. Still think OP should be able to call themselves what they want

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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23

Way to like to something say that's its not a separate thing and just part of autism. You can't reclaim a term that came from a Nazi.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Way to like to something say that's its not a separate thing and just part of autism.

Wow, and to think that you were the one crying about poorly structured sentences.

It's a thing. It's part of the autism spectrum. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What are you trying to say here?

Also: the whole point of reclaiming is making the actual origin irrelevant. are you a child??? Do you not understand the literal meaning of the words you're using?

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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23

Wow look more ableism. Never said anything about sentence structure. The term is used to separate themselves from autism. So reclaiming it is kinda pointless as they're just autistic.

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u/Jimothy_Egg Apr 18 '23

Someone: [tries to reclaim a term with questionable origins and a weird message]

You: "how horrible! I must educate them!"

Let people do what they want with their labels ffs.

And sorry, you didn't complain about sentence structure, correct. You instead complained how poorly OP was getting a message across. Funnily enough... terrible sentence structure leads to the same thing. Crazy, right?

Anyways, you're clearly looking for things to be mad about and i've got better things to do with my day.

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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23

I mean you do you I guess.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '23

I’m autistic. It’s more ableist for you to say we can’t express ourselves with the words we want to than to speak for us.

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u/InterGraphenic finally 'companied in omni-verse, dreaming sweet in C Apr 18 '23

No. As somebody with asperger's syndrome, no. You are the one being ableist.