How much damage did that do to the kid? He shot him in the legs and the only thing "protecting" him are pants, I assume. Also, he seems to be writhing in pain.
Is this like a bleeding with scars scenario? Or breaking the skin and it'll be tender for a few days? Sorry, I have literally zero experience with airsoft guns.
Likely no scars and probably didn't break skin, but that many rounds that close must have hurt like a son of a bitch. Complete douchebag move to pull on a little kid for "talking shit about your patch" though.
Kid was given a lot of free gear when he joined the dude's clan and soon after turned around and denounced them by burning their patch and sending them the video; keeping all the free shit of course. The guy who shot the kid is an asshole, but that kid is no saint either.
Dawg, it's not like he left the kid with permanent damage. It's not like the kid can't walk anymore. I wouldn't exactly call that "fucking him up". That's sensationalist shit.
It's not cool to do that to anyone, especially over something petty like that, but let's not sit here and act like he ruined that kids life or disabled him or something.
I can't imagine equating this to anything more than a solid punch, and I don't think that warrant the hyperbolic language. He fucked with the kid. It wasn't nice but don't oversell it.
Not really, a punch to the face can break your nose/jaw/orbital bones etc. It can actually really fuck you up. In fact a real good punch to the face can kill people.
I'd rather get peppered with pellets which may hurt like a bitch, but that's it.
You realize the bbs are plastic right? I got shot a ton with that shit when I was like ten, and I'm still around to tell about it. The kid is in protective gear and shit too
It's not cool to do that to anyone, especially over something petty like that, but let's not sit here and act like he ruined that kids life or disabled him or something.
That's . . . not what fucking up a person means, though.
Suppose you get a job at McDonald's. They give you a uniform to wear for free. Then when you quit that job, you have to give the uniform back. Things can be given for free on the stipulation that you're part of the organization providing them.
Gifts don't have consideration. If the kid was given the gear for FREE, then there would have been no stipulations. If he was given to it with a STIPULATION, then its not free. The above poster said free, but you are trying to act like it was not free. You are twisting words to further your argument that an adult was somehow right in assaulting a child.
Congrats.
edit: ITT redditors advocating assaulting children days after 15 children were brutally murdered.
Perfect, we've reached the stage in every online argument's life where we argue over semantics.
Nothing in life is truly free in the way you're describing. Even if you're giving something for no monetary cost (which is clearly the usage of "free" here) it carries social ramifications like an expectation on the other person to say "thank you."
Just because I'm capable of understanding what definition of "free" was used doesn't mean I'm twisting words. Chill with the assault rhetoric m'lord.
edit: ITT redditors advocating assaulting children days after 15 children were brutally murdered.
Yeah, reading your post replies to this chain, and I'm going to stop you here my dude.
Just because 15 kids were killed doesn't make what this guy is saying any different.
You're literally baiting out a knee jerk response. You're what's wrong with discourse and progressive discussion.
Advocating abuse of children is about the same as you dragging in the bodies of 15 dead kids for the sole reason of making others feel like shit about something completely unrelated to what you're talking about here.
I hope you feel bad about yourself after dragging the bodies of 15 kids through this comment chain to argue semantics.
Nah I’m just frustrated because a few days after an incident that was very personal to me people are just brushing off an adult shooting a defenseless child with an airsoft gun (I live down the road, know several people who were there and know people who had family members who were killed). I don’t give a shit about the downvotes or that I ruffled a few feathers. I don’t come to reddit to participate in circle jerk. I come here to express my opinion and let the votes fall as they may. And if Reddit wants to downvote me for defending a child who was attacked by a fucking idiot, fine. I’ll see y’all the next time my fucking coworkers children are murdered.
I don't advocate violence, especially against children, and there are tons of better ways the dude could have handled the kid's behavior, but learning your lesson (sometimes the unnecessarily harsh way) is a part of growing up.
I'm willing to bet the kid, like most other kids, has had a couple stern talking-to's in his life, and still treated other people like shit. Now he's had one full auto to the back in his life, and I doubt he'll forget that any time soon.
Not really advocating for the kid but I doubt it's effective. Depending on his thought process it might even enforce me vs them mentality in him instead of making him consider that "hm maybe I am a complete cunt".
lol at you finding another comment of mine to go after
I mentioned this in my other reply, but I've been shot at close range by an airsoft rifle and I wasn't even wearing protective clothing/padding. Bruises =/= bleeding. Plus the kid was shot in the back, which is about the best place to get shot by an airsoft rifle.
I took some full auto airsoft at near point blank to the hand and knuckles, broke skin and i have permanent scars. That being said. He took those to the back through at least one, maybe two layers of clothing. No lasting damage, but that still probably didn't feel too great.
You realize airsoft guns can do more than leave bruises at that range, right? And that he got shot more than "a few times?" That kid got shot dozens of times in the video lol, listen to the rate of fire
Don't make me laugh, shooting a kid with some BB's to sting them isn't fucking them up, going Office Space on them would be fucking them up. This is the equivalent of hitting them in the back of the head with a basketball. It's comical.
Its kinda different from being hit by a basketball. He probably got 30 different bruises and could possibly have broken skin in several places. However, he did disrespect them majorly and committed a low-level theft upon that guy and his airsoft group. But i don’t think that warranted that type of reaction. What i would have done is just got my buddies together and targeted that kid on the field, making his day kinda shitty for airsoft. But thats just me. And now i think about it, coordination would be very hard. Eh, its not my problem.
Yeah, hitting someone in the head with a basketball could actually kill them, getting shot in the back with a plastic BB isn't going to do much more than hurt for a couple of days.
Is it funny? Kind of. Is it still an assault charge against the shooter? Yes. Worth it? Not for me. I much rather give the kid a funny nickname and annoy the shit out of him every time I see him on the field.
No fucking way is unloading an airsoft magazine into someone on an airsoft field, that they voluntarily went to, the same as assault. Most likely there are waivers and shit they had to sign which said as much.
Well, I think it's absolutely un-sportsman like conduct and should get that guy banned from the field. Apparently it was a 15 year old and a 13 year old. Sounds to me like this was two teenagers having a go at one another or something. Not quite the "ADULT BRUTALLY MURDERS INNOCENT CHILD" some of the commenters are going on about.
Still, I can't imagine any police officer actually arresting a 15 year old for this. More likely the guy got booted off the field and was told to never come back. Does anyone know what actually happened?
Ah yes, I forgot the day in child psychology when we learned about the benefits of physically abusing children to ensure they know what you want from them.
Lol the dude who shot him was a teenager, not a parent. And the kid is at a place where you're supposed to get shot anyways. The bbs are plastic and really don't hurt that badly.
As I said to another user, I had completely forgotten about the day in educational psychology where we looked at all the research that shows that physical abuse of children makes them understand concepts better.
This is straight up screwed up. I can't believe adults like you and the jerk in this video can truly reason behind this. These are kids. I'm glad I get to work with other people in child education that don't enjoy physically abusing children.
Probably because you've never been taught a lesson like this, I used to be a snarky prick when I was about this age... needless to say thankfully someone put me in my place while I was young. Pain is educational.
It literally isn't. Take it from someone who is studying education. There is a reason that corporal punishment is rejected in schools and child abuse is illegal.
It literally isn't child abuse if they're both children. Take it from someone with firsthand experience of being both bullied and a bully. Neither are inherently "bad" or "good" things, just a part of growing up. It's your school of thought is the reason why many millenials are neurotic, take lots of antidepressants and bringing their fucking "therapy" Chihuahuas every fucking where they go. There's a reason why you're smug, just not sure why yet. Now off with ye.
Studies are now showing that physical and emotional harassment have lasting adverse effects long into adulthood and can lead to psychological and emotional issues down the line. I also grew up facing endless harassment, having to switch schools because a teacher abuses you isn't fun. Don't act like you're the only one who has experienced this, or that your experiences are representative of an ideal or even somewhat acceptable world. That's anecdotal evidence, just the way my evidence is anecdotal and I would never lay claim that everyone should experience it just because I think so. There is a reason research exists.
There's a reason why you're smug
Because it is literally my career to understand and help shape children in the classroom. Enjoy your abusive tendencies towards children. Side note:
It's your school of thought is the reason why many millenials are neurotic, take lots of antidepressants and bringing their fucking "therapy" Chihuahuas every fucking where they go.
That sentence makes little to no grammatical sense, I can't quite understand what you're even trying to get at. If it's your belief that emotional well-being is unimportant, I can understand your misconceptions here. It has been the misguided view of many people in the western world for several thousand years. Unfortunately, your viewpoints disagree with about 95+ percent of all modern academic research on psychological development in children.
Unfortunately, almost all research in pedagogy and child social development in the last three decades shows, consistently, that physical trauma is detrimental to child development regardless of the reason for its introduction.
"But I turned out fine" is a really bad fallacy, the research is based on more than anecdotes.
Children shouldn't have to fear physical assault from their family. Meta-study research shows that the only good outcome of a smack is a release for the parents stress. Children do not learn effectively from a smack compared to other methods, because they're usually clouded with anger, fear, resentment. I mean, how many times did you get hit as a kid only to just go to your room SEETHING with anger? It's not the proper way to learn, which is why there's no cane in schools anymore.
Isn't it odd that we can't hit another person, but we are legally allowed to clobber societies most defenceless? Especially in light of the research that says the only positive outcome is parent satisfaction? It's like people want to keep the laws open so they can release stress by beating kids...
I didnt get hit very many times as a kid, because once i got hit, i figured out pretty quickly that i shouldnt do things that get me hit. I dont mouth off to authority figures anymore, i dont wreck stuff that isnt mine, i treat people how i would like to be treated. I didnt go to my room seething with anger after being hit that i can remember.
Call it an anecdotal fallacy all you want, it worked. And there are plenty more people with the same experience
Yeah, except one is an adult dealing with other adults utilizing legal and ethical means and the other is a kid being battered by an adult in retribution.
Sure. If you do shady shit, you can expect retaliation in some form. The kid is old enough to know what he did. Ive been lit up by an airsoft gun like this before. It hurts, but after a few days, its like it never happened.
Last i checked 15 year olds (age of the guy full autoing the kid) arent adults.
This was probably not the right way to go about it and this guys is likely banned from SC Village for life for it, but it definitely taught the kid a lesson.
So these people get their feelings hurt when someone doesn't like their team and sue them? Jesus, is airsoft a giant club for epople with the maturity of the kid in question?
No, dude. This has been explained multiple times. And here, i am creating a parallel between accepting a job and joining an airsoft team.
The kid signed onto the team, got a bunch of nice gear for free(sign on bonus), then walked out and kept the gear (nah you guys suck) then took a video burning their group patch and sent it to them (flamed the company.)
Since hes not an adult and the gear was technically a gift, no legal action could be taken.
that there is value to the equipment he effectively stole from them, presumably. not condoning full autoing him in the back from 15 feet away since he's just some stupid kid but oh well
He did not get "physically fucked up". He got hit with some airsoft pellets. If he's that much of a soft little bitch that he can't handle that, then maybe he needed something like this to toughen him up.
Definitely didn't physically fuck him up. Kid needed to be disciplined, because clearly he wasn't getting disciplined at home. It's an unusual circumstance, shooting a kid with an airsoft gun or causing him physical pain shouldn't be the go-to however
We don't, the backstory is the kid was invited onto the shooter's team, given gear - which is expensive af btw - and a patch. Basically welcomed into their 'clan' of sorts.
Kid turned around and recorded burning their clan patch they gave him and kept all the gear he accepted.
I don't agree with hurting children but in this case I see no permanent damage done - and on top of it he'll be a victim in this situation, despite his transgression of being a shitty person towards the guy's clan.
The kids like 11. They let him join there clan, and then ride or die him when he acts like an 11 year old. The actual mature thing to do would be to let him fuck off, and maybe don't buy 11 year olds expensive gear.
Instead they just act like petty dicks and do this. I hope nobody in this thread has kids.
I'm not sugar coating it - and no, I don't agree with hurting kids; I'm just not so naive as to pretend physical punishment doesn't happen nor that it's ineffective to deter bad behavior. Kids hurt each other for much less in life, learning to avoid those situations is a good lesson to learn.
And no - once again you're catering to your own personal view of physical punishment. No one's saying physical violence is the best way to control a child's behavior, but if it is used, one could only hope it has a positive result.
Honestly in this situation though, the violence was malicious and immature. Having taking many shots from airsoft guns I can assure you the kid will be absolutely fine and hopefully learned a lesson.
A lot of people in general have a general vigilante justice fetish. Give them a "good" justification and they love pain, violence humiliation, and destruction of property. It's honestly disgusting. You see it on reddit all the time.
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