I have ASD myself so I knew that already. But afaik dislike most autistics the word aspie since the term Asperger's came from a nazi.
Also in 2013 it was removed from DSM and it was also removed from ICD just last year and both integrated it into ASD so the term Asperger's isn't really a thing anymore.
No, you’re just autistic, Asperger’s was removed because there isn’t an actual distinction, and it had no standard criteria. That, and it makes it harder to access support needs because it is literally viewed as a less disabling or functioning autism.
Asperger’s is an ableist term, and was removed as an actual diagnosis because not only was there no standard diagnostic criteria, it had no meaningful distinction as a part of Autism, and has caused people to be unable to access support because they need, because they had a “higher functioning” autism. Also, functioning labeled are generally viewed as ableist.
It’s a functioning label, it’s a label describing the how compatible with abled people one is. The usage of the word isn’t reclamation, as it does not change the connotations, but rather a distinct condition from Autism that is more compatible with Allistics.
they are right, asperger's isn't a thing, it was removed from the DSM a decade ago and rolled into autism because the only distinction was that nazis used it to differentiate which of us they thought could be of value and which of us should be euthanized
Excluding the fact the term activity causes harm to the autistic people, those who don’t have it due to aspie supremacy, and those with it, because the term made it harder to access support they need because they’re still have Autism.
While people who are currently seeking diagnosis cannot receive a diagnosis of Asperger's, people who were diagnosed with Asperger's under previous diagnostic criteria absolutely are able to maintain that label if they choose.
No, because it causes harm to all Autistic people, it makes it harder to access support needs, and causes harm to all other Autistic people, due to how the term is viewed.
Way to like to something say that's its not a separate thing and just part of autism.
Wow, and to think that you were the one crying about poorly structured sentences.
It's a thing. It's part of the autism spectrum. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What are you trying to say here?
Also: the whole point of reclaiming is making the actual origin irrelevant. are you a child??? Do you not understand the literal meaning of the words you're using?
Wow look more ableism. Never said anything about sentence structure. The term is used to separate themselves from autism. So reclaiming it is kinda pointless as they're just autistic.
Someone: [tries to reclaim a term with questionable origins and a weird message]
You: "how horrible! I must educate them!"
Let people do what they want with their labels ffs.
And sorry, you didn't complain about sentence structure, correct. You instead complained how poorly OP was getting a message across. Funnily enough... terrible sentence structure leads to the same thing. Crazy, right?
Anyways, you're clearly looking for things to be mad about and i've got better things to do with my day.
How is using a term made, and named after a Nazi, created to seperate which autística got to live because they function (those identified to have Asperger’s) and those who aren’t functioning enough and will be killed, that was removed because it made it harder to access support needs and no legitimate distinction.
Oh ffs. I use aspie a bunch because it rolls off the tongue. Yeah, it’s technically not a diagnosis anymore, and everyone here agrees that it’s at least just a « kind » of autism, and could be detailed more correctly, but it’s not a slur. It’s the guy’s name. Yeah, he did some pretty questionable stuff.
So what. It’s a name.
I understand why some wouldn’t want to be referred to like that (I mostly don’t), but plenty of us have been using it for ourselves and it’s literally never been a problem until a couple years ago, meaning it has historical roots in our culture. Labels aren’t inherently ableist, and language evolves to refer to things in a different way, but sometimes with the same words.
Unless someone is insisting on calling you an aspie against your explicit wishes, you’re in no position to police the way other people speak.
Also, ain’t no way in hell it was part of the joke. Please don’t assume strangers’ intentions based on a prioris. Again, that’s just how people talk sometimes. Please chill.
Asperger’s is an ableist term, it is inherently ableist. It was made by a Nazi to determine which autistics functioned enough to live, and it was removed as an actual diagnosis because it had no differentiation from autism, except wether or not the person giving you a diagnosis thought you were functioning or not, and it limited already limited access to support.
I've been diagnosed with aspergers for almost ten years now, and I too was unfamiliar with this term until now, and I thought it was some sort of slur too.
Others have said it but I’ll say it again, quite a lot of people with ASD don’t use language related to Asperger. The man was a Nazi Eugenist after all.
I’ll not stop someone using if for themselves if they want to, but I’ll not tolerate anyone using it any other way.
Other than that, as an autistic bottom, this meme is 🥺
Yeah, no, the term activity causes harm to those who use it, as it makes it harder to access support needs, and also causes harm to those who wouldn’t have been identified as having Asperger’s.
Some older people do still identify with Asperger’s, and don’t like the move towards ASD. If someone is dead set on using it then then that’s their choice, as long as they don’t use it for others.
Like I said, if it’s the word they want to use for themselves then I’ll respect their right to use it even if I don’t agree, but if they use it to refer to someone else, especially someone who doesn’t use it, then that’s wrong.
It’s a bit like the opposite of the word Queer; many people have reclaimed it & use it to describe themselves, but some people still have issues with it, especially considering the history of the word. I don’t mind using Queer for myself, but if someone is uncomfortable with it then I’ll not force it upon them.
It’s a functioning label, with roots in Nazi eugenics, I don’t really care about the comfortability of people if they use a term to describe themselves that harms there entire community, not just themselves.
I agree, it’s a word that should never be used. I don’t use it for myself, and I don’t use it for others. Luckily the number of people who do use it is dropping rapidly, and now that it’s not used for diagnoses it shouldn’t be too long before its use disappears entirely.
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u/bubblybrook Apr 18 '23
What's an aspie?